DIY Grack juice ejuice recipe :: e-Liquid Calculator

#1 by FogDog, Jan 5. 2017, 01:02

i really want to try this and have all flavors except grape from inawera
but inawera has two one that says grape and the other that says grapes so which one is it . im asking because your recipe on reddit says grape and on this site it says grapes

#2 by Philosaphucker, Jan 5. 2017, 15:02

@G-Dog INW Grape and INW Grapes are the same flavor :)

#3 by FogDog, Jan 6. 2017, 00:44

Thanks Phucker LOL i cant wait to try this

#4 by QB's, Jan 9. 2017, 17:33

Hi bro, is the cactus so essential for this recipe? I have it all except for this flavor or can I replace it with something else

#5 by Philosaphucker, Jan 9. 2017, 17:55

Cactus is integral to the flavor profile. It is absolutely essential.

#6 by QB's, Jan 9. 2017, 18:08

Damn it man, I will save this until I order this flavor. Thank you anyways for the fast reply. Much appreciated

#7 by FogDog, Jan 12. 2017, 23:51

which raspberry are you using from inawera malina or wera garden

#8 by djm320005, Jan 13. 2017, 02:31

This stuff is pretty great, super weird, but really addicting.

#9 by mowgs, Jan 13. 2017, 14:15

smells lovely after mixing i will give it a few days before trying .thank you
for this recipe.

#10 by Philosaphucker, Jan 13. 2017, 15:04

@FogDog It is Wera Garden

#11 by FogDog, Jan 14. 2017, 00:19

thanks

#12 by Bane213, Jan 17. 2017, 06:24

I want to try this exact recipe but will have to wait until I place another order (don't have inw grape). Would another grape work at all so I could try a small 10ml batch until I make another order? I have TFA grape juice, candy, FW grape soda, and NR ocean Myst. Thanks! Dying to try this.

#13 by Philosaphucker, Jan 17. 2017, 14:55

@Bane213 I haven't gotten any feedback regarding subs with those particular grapes. I haven't tried them either. But hey, what's 10 mls?

#14 by Rick p, Jan 20. 2017, 04:52

Love the flavor but I think when I make it next I'll leave the koolada out. It just seemed to get stronger the longer it set.

#15 by foxtrot_uniform, Jan 21. 2017, 07:47

what if i have inw ice grape, it it any good?

#16 by Philm, Jan 21. 2017, 17:28

Very nice recipe for fruit lovers, shack and vape is good. 1 week steep is excellent. Thanks for sharing.

#17 by Philosaphucker, Jan 21. 2017, 18:41

@foxtrot_uniform I have no idea what INW ice grape is like. Intuitively though, I would suggest dropping the koolada if using it :)

#18 by TheCasualVaper, Jan 24. 2017, 01:47

Are you able to make this without the koolada?

#19 by Philm, Jan 24. 2017, 03:07

I made mine without koolada, not a fan of minty or menthol or cool sensation and its great. Its in my ADV rotation now.

#20 by Cordier84, Jan 25. 2017, 12:03

Really nice, the koolada brings out more of the cactus and dragon fruit. definitely mixing up a big bottle soon

#21 by Swayback, Jan 28. 2017, 10:35

Gunna have to give it a try with TFA grape juice, really interesting sounding, thanks for posting it here for us.

#22 by Philosaphucker, Jan 30. 2017, 17:09

@Fog-Dog I screwed up. The raspberry I used was Raspberry Malina

#23 by Ckemist, Feb 2. 2017, 05:02

BEST RECIPE OF 2016! gotta mix it

#24 by Uncaged, Feb 7. 2017, 11:38

I made a couple of changes to suit what i had to hand, turned out really nice. I replaced the dragonfruit with Jackfruit, and the Koolada with Cap menthol. I have it posted on my page and credited back to this recipe :)

#25 by ozboss, Feb 11. 2017, 13:04

i don't mean to be rude but am i the only one who thinks this tastes like a nasty arm pit with too much deodorant??? or did i do it completely wrong

#26 by Rick p, Feb 11. 2017, 14:15

@Oz boss I think you did something wrong. After one week of steep, it tastes like a sweet muscadine to me. Don't give up, make it again and let it sit. I took the koolad out of mine.

#27 by Bane213, Feb 12. 2017, 09:05

You mother fuckers need to remember, taste is subjective.

#28 by Uncaged, Feb 12. 2017, 22:52

I' not sure about you ozboss, but I have never tasted a nasty arm pit. You're doing something wrong.

#29 by garethjpeters, Feb 16. 2017, 18:59

Wow! Just awesome. Absolutely love this, it's the first recipe I've liked with Koolada in it. Well done sir, top marks!!

#30 by TheCasualVaper, Feb 19. 2017, 18:45

I can't get enough of this flavor. I keep coming back to it. It's just so unique.

#31 by ThePzy, Mar 4. 2017, 13:55

Unique profile, at first try i thought i would not like it & could not vape such a flavor.....but it's kind addictive, great recipe !!!! thx
i've tried with & without koolada, just to try i've replaced it with Polar Blast FA & it's very nice too ;)

#32 by Geb, Mar 5. 2017, 16:45

@Philosaphucker - trying to find some good fruit mixes (I do mostly custards and desserts). open to suggestions. I've done some of the popular one Bombies Nana cream and a bunch of strawberry & cream mixes. Going to order some INW grape to mix this one up. I already have INW Raspberry and TPA Raspberry Sweet - do you think I can sub one of those for the INW Raspberry Malina (I have everything as described in the recipe except the grape)?

#33 by Philosaphucker, Mar 5. 2017, 22:41

@Geb I can see Malina being alright if you must sub.

#34 by TheCasualVaper, Mar 20. 2017, 04:28

I don't have any more grapes(INW) but I have grapes(FW). Do you think this will still be alright?

#35 by Geb, Apr 7. 2017, 00:04

Mixed this on 4/1. Tried as a SnV and it was a bit koolada strong. Tasted again today with a 5 day steep - it's really good! tried a grape juice two years ago when I first started vaping and hated it. what a difference the right grape flavor combo makes. I'm finding I really like the koolada effect and might even add another drop or two. thanks for sharing the recipe.

#36 by MRstief, May 11. 2017, 21:01

Wow just a amazing recepie. Finally i found a fruit profile that i really love. So much thanks for sharing this with us.

Does someone have tips for recepices that have the same kind of profile as this bueatyfull Grack Juice? Thanks a lot

#37 by tommsen, May 21. 2017, 13:51

Thats an ADV of me.

#38 by tommsen, May 21. 2017, 13:55

@MRstief try this one e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/435627/ELEMENT%20Pink%20Lemonade%20clone%20%28My%20ADV%29
goes in the same direction

#39 by TheCasualVaper, May 23. 2017, 06:29

Am i able to make this without the cactus?

#40 by Philosaphucker, May 23. 2017, 10:13

@TheCasualVaper No. Absolutely not. Cactus is integral to the profile.

#41 by TheCasualVaper, May 23. 2017, 17:03

@philosaphucker is there anything else I can replace it with? This is my favorite recipe and I ran out of the cactus

#42 by Mebo, Jun 6. 2017, 22:06

This is really a really delicious and unique mix. Very different from most other juices I have tried. Kind of a fruity Grape punch with a cooling kick from the Koolada. Not overly sweet. Actually kind of "dry" but in a good & refreshing way. The one thing I will say is that my batches have required a lot of shaking and time to "breathe" as there is a strong Ethyl Alcohol taste that really needs to evaporate (I am very sensitive to this taste). Really awesome work on this one @philosaphucker and thank you for sharing it with us! 5/5 stars.

#43 by Shareef, Jun 21. 2017, 17:28

This is an awesome recipe! I wish the grape would come out more though, maybe a steep will help it come out more. Philosaphucker, any suggestions as to anything I can change to make the grape come out more? Maybe less Cactus. 5/5 for this.

#44 by Philosaphucker, Jun 21. 2017, 17:57

@Shareef
I am glad you like it! A steep does help the grape come out more, from what i have seen. Lowering your wattage will give you more grape as well. Of course, one of the great things about DIY is that you can play with things however you wish. Lowering the Cactus can make the grape more prominent, I am sure.

#45 by Poyn2Ohmyvayp, Jun 25. 2017, 17:00

I'm sorry but I'm going to have to agree with you @ozboss I read all the positive reviews, raving about how good this juice is. So I bought all of the flavorings that I didn't already have in order to make it. I'm so disappointed. I tried it after a shake and vape, not good. I then let it sit for a couple of weeks and it still tastes like shit to me. I just don't understand why this recipe has gained so much popularity because to me, it's garbage.

#46 by Zekaue, Jun 25. 2017, 20:23

@Poyn2Ohmyvayp You probabbly got bad aroma

#47 by Zekaue, Jun 25. 2017, 20:23

anyone found good replacement for INW Grapes?

#48 by Geb, Jun 25. 2017, 20:33

@Poyn - like with all juice recipes - ymmv. This is not my favorite juice either but it is a very interesting juice and one I enjoy from time to time and I can appreciate all the time that went into crafting it. you can't be mad about a juice you don't like. If you are like most DIY people, before you started making juice you probably purchased a ton of crappy juice - I know I blew hundreds of dollars for juice that was average (at best) to poor. I've given away dozens of bottles of juice. At least now I can try just about any flavor profile for about a $1 a bottle. and if I'm honest about it I don't do any of the work. mixers like Philosaphucker do all the tasting and creating and experimenting and mixing etc. I come along and plug the numbers in a juice calculator and then enjoy - or don't enjoy the juice. I give appreciation to the mixer whether I like a juice or not.

#49 by Uncaged, Jun 29. 2017, 15:24

It might just not be to your taste @Poyn2Ohmyvayp, but saying it "tastes like shit" is not only a massive over exaggeration, but it's a bit lousy. You don't like it, that's fine, but clearly many others do, and I'm sure they'd not mix it again if it tasted like "shit". There's a lot of mixes on here I've tried and thought were bland or over rated, but I don't go blasting them for no good reason. I'm as genuine as you'll get for critique, I don't tend to mix anyone else's recipes often because I believe my own are good enough for 'my' taste. But this one grabbed my eye, and the more I tried it the more I liked it. It is an acquired taste for sure, but a refreshing one IMO. Trust me, if I didn't think it was worth a try, I'd say so. I did however make a couple of changes, I used TFA Jackfruit in place of the dragonfruit and I used Cap menthol instead of Koolada [as I can't stand that stuff} maybe try that and see if you find it any better?

#50 by rojoh, Jul 1. 2017, 03:29

Five stars. Thanks for this. Delicious. Difficult for me to describe what it tastes like, but kind of abstractly fruity.... Mmmmmm

#51 by Zekaue, Jul 1. 2017, 18:28

I've been trying to get my hands on cactus for a month now, and I finally got it. Yeay :))) so excited to try this recipe. The only thing that I couldn't find was Grapes so I'll have to use Grape juice from (tpa) and unlike the rest of the mofos that ask for help and than don't give any feedback I'm going to report back what's it like with tpa grape juice.

#52 by Philosaphucker, Jul 2. 2017, 03:01

Thanks @Zekaue! I am looking forward to your thoughts on using TPA Grape Juice.

#53 by GoblinMaster, Jul 3. 2017, 14:35

Switched the Grapes (INW) with Grape (FW) 5% and skipped the Meringue (FA) since the Grape from FW adds plenty of sweetness on its own.

Turned out very well! Thanks for the recipe.

#54 by Dawn, Aug 8. 2017, 16:52

Just made this up, its a really nice vape. has a nice mouth feel and the fruits and koolada really compliment each. I'm going to leave it a few days as you suggested. Great work, thank-you for sharing. :)

#55 by j3oT, Aug 20. 2017, 03:35

I'm adding all these flavors to my cart on ecigex, it'll be my second diy recipe since starting (1st was strawberry Fog By Spectrometer) I really like the sound of this recipe, I've never had a grape(Ish) juice before. I'm having trouble finding the raspberry on ecigex though,when I search raspberry malina it doesn't show any results.

#56 by Philosaphucker, Aug 20. 2017, 03:56

@j3oT just Raspberry on Ecigex should be the one. If you have the option to order from BullCityFlavors.com, you can get everything you need in the Community Recipe pack :)

#57 by SoulExistence, Sep 1. 2017, 23:09

Love this recipe and is my current ADV. I ran out of cactus, but still tastes good without it.

#58 by MarioT, Sep 16. 2017, 14:49

Just got all the ingredients shipped to me to Australia from Bull City, awesome recipe! You are a Phucken genius! 👍🏻Tastes awesome without steeping, How long do you steep for Philosaphucker?

#59 by Philosaphucker, Sep 16. 2017, 19:36

@MarioT I'm glad you like it! Some people think it really comes together after a week.

#60 by Debbiej, Oct 9. 2017, 23:55

Love it.......my daughter has caped this for 8 mo

#61 by chona, Oct 10. 2017, 23:57

hey man i got all the ingredients except the grape and raspberry, i manage to get the raspberry (TPA) and Grape juicy (TPA). any recomendations?? should i use them in different percentage??

#62 by Ryno2424, Oct 23. 2017, 17:56

I had to use Pur Ocean Myst as it is my only grape at the moment but boy is this a great recipe. I can't put this stuff down. Thank you!

#63 by WoYtaZ, Nov 10. 2017, 10:38

This recipe is awesome! Personally I think there is no point to substitute grape or rasberry, because these are unique for inawera. These flavors from different brands are just different (can even say miles different). Thumbs up for this great recipe Philosaphucker!

#64 by Monotom, Dec 3. 2017, 06:37

It smells like urinal perfume tablets. I can't believe I just mixed another 500ml bottle of this ridiculousness, but I'm gonna have to accept it will be finished in about two months again. Well at least my home smells like aggressively cleaned toilet now instead of just toilet :-D

#65 by Monotom, Dec 3. 2017, 06:37

PISBAKKENPARFUMBLOKJES FOR THE WIN.

#66 by Monotom, Dec 3. 2017, 06:39

I'll let myself out now.

#67 by Moog, Dec 13. 2017, 15:03

This Grack juice is just ridiculous. Those eliquid sites shoud be ashamed of those non complex bunk ass recipes. This is not even 24 hours later and flavor took over the nasty ass custard from ejuice site that was rotting on my coil. This is quite tastey

#68 by TwinsWin, Dec 27. 2017, 01:15

I really dig this flavor. I like that its unique and fresh. I've gone through quite a bit of it.

#69 by 2kdime, Dec 29. 2017, 04:24

Can this be done without additional PG? Just VG and VG based Nicotine plus the flavorings?

#70 by Philosaphucker, Dec 30. 2017, 02:16

@2kdime yeah it should be good. The recipe is definitely not delicate ;)

#71 by homeros10, Jan 3. 2018, 22:21

@philosaphucker Bro, Inawera changed the grape flavor i got the new ones and i mixed 1L, now I threw it in the garbage cause its so f***king bad, Ive been mixing your recipe for along time now so that was not my first mix, I think you need to check the new inawera grape, I have a list of the Inawera flavors which have been changed by them if you want, thumbs up u r the King

#72 by Philosaphucker, Jan 4. 2018, 00:25

This is the first that I heard of INW changing Grape. This is frightening to hear. Please get me that list!

#73 by WoYtaZ, Jan 4. 2018, 00:27

As I looked into list of flavours from leaked documents, I can't see grape flavour on that list. There is ICE GRAPE on that list but its different flavour.

#74 by homeros10, Jan 4. 2018, 00:39

@philosaphucker here u go
ANYZ (Anise)
APPLE - CHERRY
APPLE - LIME
APPLE - PINEAPPLE
ARBUZ KONCENTRAT (Watermelon)
BLACK TEA
BANAN KONCENTRAT (Banana)
BIALY GRAPEFRUIT (White Grapefruit)
BILLBERRY (SHISHA)
BLACKBERRY - RASPBERRY
CACTUS - LIME
CHERRY - COLA
CHOCOLATE MINT
COLA
COLA - MINT
CONCENTRATE DRY COCTAIL
CONCENTRATE MARULA
CONCENTRATE PURPLE GUM
CONCENTRATE SWEET KING
CONCENTRATE SWEET SOUR
CUBA CIGAR
CYTRYNA KONCENTRAT (Lemon)
SEZAM (Sesame)
CZEKOLADA (Chocolate)
CZEKOLADA MLECZNA (Milk Chocolate)
EXOTIC
FORTUNA STRIKE
GOLD DUCAT
GRAPEFRUIT
GRAPE
GREEN TEA
GRUSZKA KONCENTRAT (Pear)
ICE APPLE
ICE GRAPE
KOKOS KONCENTRAT
LEMON
LUKRECJA KONCENTRAT (Licorice)
MELON
MILK CHOCOLATE&STRAWBERRY
MIETA (Mint)
MIOD (Honey)
MRELE (Apricot)
ORZECH ARACHIDOWY (Peanut)
PEAR&CHOCOLATE
POMARANCZA (Orange)
POZIOMKA KONCENTRAT (Wild Strawberry)
SAHARA
STRAWBERRY & CHOCOLATE
STRAWBERRY KISS
SUNSET VIRGINIA
SLIWKA (Plum)
SLIWKA WEDZONA (Smoked Plum)
SLIWOWICA (Plum Brandy)
WANILIA KONCENTRAT (Vanilla)
WISNIA W LIKEIERZE (Chocolate Cherries)

#75 by homeros10, Jan 4. 2018, 00:43

Everytime I mix it with the new inawera grape it taste like piss and nothing but the cactus i can taste

#76 by Philosaphucker, Jan 4. 2018, 04:19

Fuck! Where did you find this? Welp, better start on a v2..

#77 by TwinsWin, Jan 4. 2018, 04:59

The new watermelon tastes like soap.

#78 by Geb, Jan 4. 2018, 05:58

does anybody know if bull city is selling the new flavors or the old ones right now? I was going to reup on some grape.

#79 by homeros10, Jan 4. 2018, 08:37

It was be sent from Inawera themselves to a Swedish store and they told me that when I mixed the juice and it was horrible so I asked them

#80 by Ryno2424, Jan 4. 2018, 17:02

I just got INW grape from Bull City last week and I mix Grack juice yesterday and it seems the same to me.

#81 by homeros10, Jan 4. 2018, 23:03

@Ryno2424 maybe it was from an old stock

#82 by TwinsWin, Jan 6. 2018, 02:45

I emailed BullCity and they assured me that the grape wasn't reformulated.

#83 by Mebo, Jan 6. 2018, 02:52

I also emailed with bill city and got the same response.

#84 by homeros10, Jan 6. 2018, 10:07

But the Swedish company sent me the list that Inawera sent them few days before they r trustable tho

#85 by TwinsWin, Jan 6. 2018, 17:31

I don't know what kind of grape they sent you. If I ever get a grape flavoring as bad as you say it is, I'll use a different grape. It really sucks you had to dump a whole liter. Thank you for the warning. But I am inclined to trust BullCity. They are a major player in the flavor game. If something was up, they'd know about it. They or I could always be wrong. You got your point across. We will keep an eye out for it.

#86 by homeros10, Jan 6. 2018, 18:26

Ok so maybe I am doing something wrong, now when I mix the track juice the cactus is overwhelming the flavor always, like how measurement I use it taste horrible, I contacted the company I usually buy from them and they informed me that Inawera changed the flavor, so I asked them to send me from the old grape to test, they did and I mixed it waiting for another two days to try it and let u know, fyi I mixed grack juice many times so this is not my first time. Thank you guyz

#87 by WoYtaZ, Jan 7. 2018, 00:38

I'm still thinking that grape wasn't changed. There is a lot about this case id you google it, and every list I've seen there's no grape. Eg https://diyordievaping.com/2017/03/27/leaked-documents-show-inw-changed-their-flavorings/
But the other thing is that whole case is a bit secret/confidential shit so who knows.

#88 by homeros10, Jan 7. 2018, 00:49

I would love to send anyone here a 10ml of inawera grape to test it and feedback, I am in Sweden so i hope that u r in Europe

#89 by Astur, Jan 9. 2018, 19:15

@Philosaphucker Grape is NOT on the leaked list see video youtu.be/J_3m-29B8Ls 1min 24 sec. By other side, could I use WS-23 instead of koolada? as it brings me kinda "soapy" flavour.

#90 by Philosaphucker, Jan 9. 2018, 19:41

@Astur yeah I researched it too and the above exchanges are the only time I have heard of this. People have reported liking it with WS-23! I havent tried yet, but I was actually planning on mixing some up this evening.

#91 by Astur, Jan 10. 2018, 03:35

@Philosaphucker It'd be nice if share your results with WS-23, many tanks for this amazing recipe.

#92 by 2kdime, Jan 11. 2018, 01:46

Mixed up about 500ml of this stuff and it smells GREAT! However after a week of steeping I caved and gave it a whirl. I’m getting a burnt tire kind of taste....???

#93 by Philosaphucker, Jan 11. 2018, 03:56

@2kdime hmm...first time I heard that one. That sucks! Are you vaping at high temps? Also, am I correct in assuming from your comment that you mixed 500ml of a recipe you have never tried before?

#94 by 2kdime, Jan 11. 2018, 04:03

I mixed up 120 and it smelled great. Went ahead and made more knowing I’d be burning through it based on my initial impression once it was ready to vape. So yes, mixed a bunch of an untested recipe! It’s all good though. Going to let them steep a while longer and play with letting one breathe for a bit each day. Wondered if maybe this was seen before and maybe just meant it wasnt ready yet or I just don’t have the palate for it.

#95 by TwinsWin, Jan 12. 2018, 15:39

This recipe is good off the bat. After maybe three days it dont change much (for me). I shake and vape this stuff and its very good.

#96 by TwinsWin, Jan 12. 2018, 15:40

I make new recipes in small 15ML bottles and go from there but that's just me. That way you can avoid waste.

#97 by bigjuice, Jan 13. 2018, 16:13

Excellent

#98 by Guppy, Jan 15. 2018, 04:08

I've made this many times now but I always seem to be missing a flavor. I have subbed INW grapes for PUR ocean myst which was very good (certainly not better). Ran out of sweet strawberry so I'm about to make it with TPA Juicy Peach instead, dunno if that's gonna work well but I'll find out :)

#99 by 2kdime, Jan 15. 2018, 04:19

Gotta day after this steeped a while longer it’s certainly improving. I’m enjoying this stuff at this point. Even gave some to a friend to try.

#100 by Astur, Jan 26. 2018, 02:24

@Philosaphucker, did you tried with ws-23? anyway i'll mix my first batch with koolada.

#101 by Philosaphucker, Jan 26. 2018, 02:51

Oh hey @Astur I did! I haven't gotten back yet because I haven't found my favorite percentage. I will say though that a 1:1 sub definitely works. I'm inclined to try 1% next though because I have heard good things about doing that as well.

#102 by 2kdime, Jan 26. 2018, 03:00

So easy on coils and still so tasty! Made 1000ml of this😈

#103 by Philosaphucker, Jan 26. 2018, 06:48

@2kdime I'm glad it came around for you 😊

#104 by teddybearfactory, Feb 1. 2018, 00:48

Hey. First of all I'd like to thank you for your effort in creating this recipe. I know what's going into these recipes. Vaping through a lot of failed attempts etc.

Second, a little list of events:
I first mixed this about 2 weeks ago. At that time I had no meringue left, also no classic grape just ice grape. So I DIYed something completely different from this recipe involving a combo of sweet mango CAP and mango shisha INW for the grape top note and blackcurrant TPA with strawberry wild and a little lowered malina as support and a simple sweetener TPA with a little bit of polar blast FA. came out unexpectedly nice.

A week after that I had everything for it except for that damn original grape, non of my go to stores had it (I live in Austria so it's a bit hard to get my hands on every flavour I'd like to have).
So I said f it and made 10ml with ice grape. And man, that tasted soooo good. Like those Ricola Grape gummy pastilles they used to make in the early 2000s. It was just unbelievably great.
But that ice grape was really old (it was in my "this stuff will never get used box")

2 days ago I finally had everything together for it and I mixed it up. Made 30ml just to be sure that I don't vape trough it before it reveals it's best form. And I got to admit that even if it tastes really strange to me I can't stop vaping it. I'm torn between it quite accurately resembling a certain brand of lavender toilet cleaner and some really good perfume. And if this was the reason for the name I probably get it now.

But for my question:
Should it be really really floral with a bit of "wine cellar dryness" and a kind of neutral watery exhale or did I do something wrong? Does it need more steep? Has grape INW changed to a more floral-wine aroma?

Also sorry for making you read so much text. :/

#105 by Philosaphucker, Feb 1. 2018, 04:07

Hey no problem, I love to read! I believe that you may be mainly dealing with the floral aspects of that much Cactus and those taking over the mix. Now the grape does take a bit longer to come out in this mix and sweeten up (with the cactus settling down some). I get varying reports from 7-10 days. Also, your experience is going to vary, depending on how you vape. Lower temps will give you more sweeter, grape top-notes. I hang out in the medium to medium high range in most of my setups and find that it just comes together better after that first week.

The name is a simple take on a portmanteau for 'grape-cactus' and...crack 😉

#106 by WoYtaZ, Feb 1. 2018, 08:26

One more thing it might be, is ice grape, if its inawera and if you got new one recently. It was on the list of changed flavourings by inawera.

#107 by Marcil802, Feb 2. 2018, 05:55

Is there a big difference between raspberry Shisha (INW) and raspberry (INW)?can I sub?
Also how do I know if I have the new or the old grape (INW)?

#108 by homeros10, Feb 2. 2018, 12:20

@philosaphuker so u r admitting that the flavor has changed? I don't know what to do every time I mix t the grape mute and the cactus overtaking the flavor, I mixed it even with 50 /50 trying to make the grape taste like before but yet another failure 😣

#109 by Philosaphucker, Feb 2. 2018, 15:39

@Marcil802. I am not sure. Let me know how it goes.
@homeros10 You are the only person ever to express this concern with INW Grape to me. I have found no other infornation besides what you told me. This is concerning, but I simply cannot confirm the claim that INW Grape has changed. WoYtaZ was talking about INW Grape-Ice, which is a different flavor

#110 by homeros10, Feb 2. 2018, 15:47

I know but your amazing mix is never like before, before I couldnt stop vaping it, now the cactus is horrible and no grape taste at all

#111 by Astur, Feb 5. 2018, 20:42

Just tested my first batch, I'm really amazed with such a brilliant mix of fruits, is a tropical delice, can't stop vaping it.

#112 by Marcil802, Feb 5. 2018, 20:55

Great floral taste, I would consider the koolada, it's really really too cool. Drop to 0.25%

#113 by TwinsWin, Feb 6. 2018, 00:32

I do .5% koolada and love it at that percentage.

#114 by 2kdime, Feb 6. 2018, 22:22

Yeah something has changed with the flavorings. Mixed up that 1000ml and it’s NOTHING like the first go. What a shame.

#115 by Philosaphucker, Feb 7. 2018, 01:02

@2kdime where did you get your flavors?

#116 by 2kdime, Feb 7. 2018, 01:20

From Bull City

#117 by homeros10, Feb 7. 2018, 01:22

Finally someone support me lol

#118 by Philosaphucker, Feb 7. 2018, 01:28

Do you think it is the Grape?

#119 by 2kdime, Feb 7. 2018, 01:30

Fell free to text if you want man. 816-739-3537. Names Trevor.
I have an idea with my batch. But it’s definitely lacking somewhere.

#120 by Astur, Feb 7. 2018, 02:30

I can't put my opinion here as this is my first batch, I got all my flavors from inawera.com and Chefs-Flavours and the taste is fantastic, I can't believe it has been better before.

#121 by Dragoon, Feb 7. 2018, 02:53

This is the most satisfying flavourful vape I have had so far. Went with 30/70 on the PG/VG. Words are too clumsy to describe such an amazing vape. Thank you very much for sharing this delightful recipe.

#122 by homeros10, Feb 7. 2018, 03:34

I think its both the grapes and cactus

#123 by homeros10, Feb 7. 2018, 12:17

@philosaphucker What? Fuck .. Inawera still have the old grape in their company I know that for sure

#124 by Philosaphucker, Feb 7. 2018, 13:19

False alarm. There are bad batches floating around, apparently. All is good.

#125 by 2kdime, Feb 7. 2018, 13:52

So are they pulling old batches? I’ve gotten mine to taste better by adding more flavorings to my already mixed up bottle but it’s still not the same. I’d sure hope the botched batches are being pulled.

#126 by ThePzy, Feb 7. 2018, 13:56

Hey :-)
I always order INW flavors directly from Inawera manufacture PL; i received my 120ml Grape and noticed that the label on the bottle has changed, so i mailed them about the Grape flavor.
They assured me that only label had changed, and that they did not reformulated the Grape flavor. Hope that can help ^^
Btw : my inw grape is always for the Grack juice, great recipe !!!

#127 by Philosaphucker, Feb 7. 2018, 14:53

@2kdime No idea. I guess that depends on the reseller policies. Join me on discord if you would like Philosaphucker#6582

#128 by TwinsWin, Feb 7. 2018, 18:53

"Grack is on its death bed. " sadder words have never been posted. Do you guys that buy direct from Inawera notice a difference to re-bottled? I've read an old lady on a forum swear it was better to get it from Europe but always thought it was bullshit.

#129 by homeros10, Feb 7. 2018, 18:57

@Twinswin I live in Sweden and I was the first one to report the bad flavor

#130 by Philosaphucker, Feb 7. 2018, 20:24

@TwinsWin with INW, there has been a history of quality issues all over the place. Also, if a particular batch was mishandled, then it doesn't really matter where it came from.

#131 by Dragoon, Feb 12. 2018, 02:02

5 stars :)

#132 by Linsky, Feb 16. 2018, 18:15

Delicious. Subbed Koolada with 2% WS23 10%. Thank you for sharing!

#133 by Bigmurf86, Feb 17. 2018, 10:48

I made this with some subs, steeped couple of weeks and I love it! I subbed for grape juice TPA and used the other raspberry shisha and it’s nice for me. The meringue really mends in well with the grape juice

#134 by Philosaphucker, Feb 17. 2018, 13:56

@Bigmurf86 I am glad it worked for you. Thanks for the feedback! I have explored an option without grape at all and am very happy with it. Use 1.5%TFA Blackberry instead of the INW Grape and 2% FA Black Currant instead of the INW Raspberry and wait a few days. If you have those flavors, it is worth checking out.

#135 by TwinsWin, Feb 17. 2018, 15:18

I'm putting those on the list @Philosaphucker. I'm always open to ideas on how to expand my Grack attack.

#136 by 2kdime, Feb 17. 2018, 15:29

Have you got a recipe to follow @philosaphucker? Or willing to sell any?

#137 by Philosaphucker, Feb 17. 2018, 21:40

@2kdime it is the same recipe, just with the subs and percentages I mentioned. I'm not sure if it needs to be its own thing. I try not to manufacture eliquids...sucks the joy right out of mixing for me. Haha

#138 by Ryno2424, Feb 17. 2018, 21:56

@Philosaphucker I have a love hate relationship with Grack Juice. Love it cause its the best juice I've ever mixed and one of the best juices I've ever vaped and hate it cause nothing else compares now. I've never been one to vape on one juice all day long and find myself only vaping this juice anymore. Thank you for this recipe...I guess...lol.

#139 by Philosaphucker, Feb 17. 2018, 22:17

@Ryno2424 Sorry about that...I guess...lol. You can try playing around with other flavor substitutions for the grape and raspberry if you like to tinker. That might help wean you off. Haha

#140 by homeros10, Feb 17. 2018, 22:21

Phil, I have Black currrant TFA and black berry FA
any suggestions if I wanna use ur new subs?

#141 by Ryno2424, Feb 17. 2018, 22:22

Lol... Yeah I seen your comment with the blackberry and black currant as subs. I have black currant CAP Silverline, do you think that would work?

#142 by Philosaphucker, Feb 17. 2018, 22:23

Well that is the exact inverse of what I have and what I am familiar with, so I have no idea, homeros10! TFA Blackberry is very powerful stuff and that is one of the reasons why I chose it in particular.

#143 by Philosaphucker, Feb 17. 2018, 22:26

@Ryno2424 hmm...not at those percentages at least. It hits the palate a bit differently from FA, from what I have read as well.

#144 by homeros10, Feb 17. 2018, 22:27

So what do u suggest ? I can try it with my? Just suggest pr3ntages and I will test ;) thqnk you legend

#145 by Philosaphucker, Feb 17. 2018, 22:29

You would have more familarity with those flavors than me because I have never tried them. I'm not a wizard, homeros 😂

#146 by homeros10, Feb 17. 2018, 22:31

Hahaha true and fair enough,

#147 by Monotom, Feb 18. 2018, 02:37

@philosaphucker "I'm not sure if it needs to be its own thing." - It does need a new name if it hasn't got any grape in it. "Brack"? ("Black" is a bit generic maybe). I'm making this, will report back.

#148 by Monotom, Feb 18. 2018, 02:42

Oh, scratch that. I read TFA Black Currant

#149 by Philosaphucker, Feb 18. 2018, 04:52

@Montom I drafted the variation when I believed that INW killed Grape. I called it 'Mouring' in my recipe book. It is actually 1.5% FA Black Currant (not 2%). I also subbed the Koolada with WS-23.

#150 by Monotom, Feb 18. 2018, 11:36

FA black currant = FA blackcurrant in the ELR database, for who's wondering. My name is Monotom, not Montom. 'Mouring' should probably be 'Mourning", given the context. @Philosaphucker, a bit misty-eyed, dear chap? Since Grape is still alive, I propose sticking to "Brack", then adding Oba Oba and malic acid:"Brack Obama".

#151 by Philosaphucker, Feb 18. 2018, 15:38

Oh man. My sincerest apologies, dear Monotom. Those typographical errors are inexcuseable (regardless of hour, emotional state, or tear-induced smudges on my pages).

#152 by TwinsWin, Feb 18. 2018, 21:31

I practiSe bad grammEr sometimes too @Phil Osafucker. Lol

#153 by Monotom, Feb 19. 2018, 08:41

@philosaphucker Ooooh don't fret cool cat. We all have some smudges on some pages somewhere . I have them in incognito pages mainly but I do accidentally cmd-T sometimes, if y'all smell what I'm stepping in.

#154 by Bigmurf86, Feb 19. 2018, 11:21

I don’t have those subs but they are on the list now!. Thanks man! I’ll let you know the outcome

Cheers - B86

#155 by Mausberg, Feb 19. 2018, 12:17

Not a huge fan of cooling in my vapes, but this were refreshing and got my mind on alternatives. Gonna try fiddle with this, thinking out loud cucumber and orange would probably be a fun twist here. Thanks for a good recipe :)

#156 by Astur, Feb 24. 2018, 11:54

@Philosaphucker I'm going to mix my second batch of this wonder, this time with WS-23 (30%) from Chefsflavours, my grape is ok, so this will be my only change, what do you suggest; 1:1 sub or raise up to 1%? 30% looks pretty strong.

#157 by Philosaphucker, Feb 24. 2018, 15:16

@Astur if you are not used to WS-23 (30%), I might start with a 1:1 sub. I do enjoy it at 1% though

#158 by homeros10, Feb 24. 2018, 15:34

So I got grape inawera 200ml (the old grape yesterday) gonna mix it today and feedback within a week

#159 by TwinsWin, Feb 28. 2018, 03:18

@Philosaphucker, I have been reading as much as I can about Inawera fruits. I keep seeing people comment on INW Dragon Fruit in a good way. Some say it's delicious. Have you ever tried it in Grack Juice? I am contemplating getting it out of curiosity. I've been vaping Grack all day and have been thinking about you bud. I wonder how on earth you came up with such a wonderful, unique flavor like this :). Thanks again.

#160 by Philosaphucker, Feb 28. 2018, 04:17

@TwinsWin, INW Dragonfruit is a very nice vape. It is also distinctly flavorful with quite a bit of body. I generally don't just plug it into stuff and haven't tried it as a sub in Grack Juice. I recommend giving this unique flavor a single flavor test to get to know it a little bit. I left this example of its usage on ATF (though a major flavor changed, regrettably): https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/35212#smooth_operator_by_philosaphucker

#161 by TwinsWin, Feb 28. 2018, 19:04

Is the ws-23 cooling agent you use 30% in pg. I'm see it at BullCity.

#162 by Philosaphucker, Feb 28. 2018, 19:59

Yep!

#163 by alchem_me, Mar 5. 2018, 01:12

Interesting original recipe. I like koolada/menthol juices but the cactus in this is a little too aggressive for my liking. Glad i tried it though.

#164 by TwinsWin, Mar 5. 2018, 03:27

My WS-23 will be here tomorrow. I cant wait to mix some more Grack wit it.

#165 by Astur, Mar 5. 2018, 18:43

@Philosaphucker & @homeros10 I recently ordered INW Grape and Cactus for chefsflavours, and surprise, the Grape has a different colour, taste and smell from the original from inawera.com, actually waiting their response, Cactus has the same colour but is different too, tried both with a drop in my nuckle.

#166 by TwinsWin, Mar 5. 2018, 18:49

Oh boy, here we go again..

#167 by Philosaphucker, Mar 5. 2018, 20:25

@Astur. I would test it and if it is bad, request a new bottle from Chefs. TwinsWin will pass me the popcorn, I'm sure.

#168 by Ryno2424, Mar 5. 2018, 20:56

Just got my WS-23 today. Can't wait till I mix it in the next time I make it. @Philosaphucker are you using it at the same .75%? I tasted a little dab of WS-23 off my knuckle and my whole tongue went icey numb. Shit is strong!

#169 by Philosaphucker, Mar 5. 2018, 21:27

@Ryno2424 I bump it up to 1%, actually. YMMV, but I find that it fades out rather quickly (or I get used to it, anyway).

#170 by Ryno2424, Mar 5. 2018, 21:31

Ok I'll play around with it. Thanks for getting back to me! Hey did you know they changed INW Grape?! Bwahahahahaha

#171 by TwinsWin, Mar 5. 2018, 23:04

Lmao @Ryno2424! I got my WS-23 today too. I'm going to mix some more today.
* continues to eat microwave popcorn smothered in tfa-butter *

#172 by TwinsWin, Mar 8. 2018, 02:52

I made a mess urgh... I was making 60 ML directly into the bottle a bit ago. I weighed up almost all the flavors. All I needed left was the inw raspberry. Reaching for it, I tipped my damn bottle over that I was mixing in. I thought for a while and then decided to dump it. I re-did it without complication lol. My room smells like Grack still (awesome!).

This is my first batch with WS23. I tried a little lick of it off of the back of my hand. Holy shit, my mouth felt really cool. Some got on the roof of my mouth and I got an ice cream headache. It was painful lol! Never again.

#173 by TheCasualVaper, Mar 10. 2018, 19:50

Is there a bottle out there that you can buy like this?

#174 by SweetLouBPVK, Mar 16. 2018, 15:49

Has anyone tried any subs for cap sweet strawberry? I have INW strawberry, TFA strawberry ripe, and a little bit of TFA strawberry. Thoughts?

#175 by ANDYM8913, Mar 17. 2018, 11:16

Just mixed up but subbed Koolada for WS-23 (personal preference). Smells absolutely incredible. Well done Sir.

#176 by 2kdime, Mar 18. 2018, 16:58

Hey @Philosaphucker so the new variant is 1.5 or 2% Black Currant? And then 1.5% Blackberry correct? I’ve been wanting to try a Black Currant juice. You still digging it?

#177 by Philosaphucker, Mar 18. 2018, 20:30

1.5 for both, yes, 2kdime. I am indeed!

#178 by TwinsWin, Mar 19. 2018, 00:26

What are you guys talking about? I want in.

#179 by 2kdime, Mar 19. 2018, 00:41

TwinsWin see post #134. But it’s 1.5 and 1.5% for both. This is a variant of the recipe to rule out possible Grape issues. I’m giving it a go!

#180 by TwinsWin, Mar 19. 2018, 01:25

Oh crap, I forgot all about that! Duh. Now I really will put them in the cart. Thsnks @2kdime.

#181 by 2kdime, Apr 5. 2018, 04:18

Steep time on Currant/BlackBerry version?

#182 by Philosaphucker, Apr 5. 2018, 15:40

@2kdime a few days

#183 by homeros10, Apr 5. 2018, 15:47

@philosaphucker man salut to you I made the blackcurrant version with blackcurrant tfa and blackberry capella and I adjust the ratio for tfa, its my new adv ejuice awesome hit awesome, I made order for the right flavor now hoping it will arrive tomorrow I am gonna mix 1L thank you again you are a king

#184 by 2kdime, Apr 7. 2018, 04:12

Agreed! Tried the day after mixing and it was a no go. Kept shaking it and giving it some fresh air. 3-4 days after mixing and OMG DUDE. I can’t put it down!

#185 by Astur, Apr 8. 2018, 01:14

@homeros10 how did you adjusted the percentages?

#186 by TwinsWin, Apr 8. 2018, 02:43

@Astur see post #134.

#187 by clockwork, Apr 8. 2018, 03:34

Pretty fricking fantastic!

#188 by TwinsWin, Apr 8. 2018, 05:25

I just ordered my blackberry and black currant. Can't wait to make some Black Grack.

#189 by Astur, Apr 10. 2018, 17:14

@TwinsWin I ask because he has used blackcurrant tfa and blackberry capella instead of FA & TFA

#190 by homeros10, Apr 10. 2018, 17:19

@astur I boosted the blackcurrant into 5% and and the blackberry left it the same

#191 by TwinsWin, Apr 10. 2018, 18:33

Oh ok @Astur, sorry I didn't see that. I've yet to try Capella Blackberry.

#192 by Astur, Apr 12. 2018, 01:07

@homeros10 thanks, @TwinsWin no problemo :-)

#193 by TwinsWin, Apr 12. 2018, 03:09

My alternate flavors should be here tommorow!

#194 by teddybearfactory, Apr 21. 2018, 19:44

Writing back after a long time of trying around. Glad to see that this recipe is still going strong!
Bad news first. I somehow can't stand the cactus in there. But only when combined with the INW grape. Guess I'm unlucky in that regard. Bit sad about it. :(

Now the good news! Oh boy this recipe is soooo versatile! I made one with Mango and Blackcurrant, made one with Ice grape and Cactus (that somehow works for me, idk why). I keep making it with Blackberry because this the only real use for TPA Blackberry! Hell I even made one with a mix of Fuji and Kiwi. Still feel like I'm mutilating this and probs should just accept that I can't vape the OG formula. Hope you don't mind me doing weird things with this...:/
At 5 stars this recipe is still underrated tho!!!

#195 by Tara, May 5. 2018, 22:26

Made this yesterday, tried it out.... tastes like a floral green leaf... lol. I guess it needs some steeping :)

#196 by homeros10, May 5. 2018, 22:28

@tara I would let it steep for 1 week at least

#197 by Tara, May 6. 2018, 00:56

Thank you homeros, what is it supposed to taste like? I am very new to diy ejuice and like fruity vapes. I picked this recipe because it was listed as very popular in Reddit and diy or die 's list of top recipes

#198 by homeros10, May 6. 2018, 01:05

Grapes with a weird taste combined with cactus its like a mix that will turn out to be a new flavor like amazing cold flavor love it like I cant stop vaping it, its an addiction to me

#199 by Tara, May 6. 2018, 02:23

Haha cool I hope it changes to something better then a strange leaf :)

#200 by homeros10, May 6. 2018, 02:26

It will juat give it some time, when I mix it I leave it for two weeks minmum to get the max of it

#201 by Tara, May 6. 2018, 06:52

Funny thing , I was trying to find the tank it was in ( I have multiple nautilus mini tanks ) so I tried it again, and now it is t so bad... it's almost abit different every puff, lol. First puff it was a sweet grape with green leaves, second puff was a grape candy , third was apple flavor, fourth was like an under ripe grape somehow.... like the taste you get from trying to eat a not quite yet ripe strawberry, another time it tasted like grape flowers.... it's so confusing ! Haha. Lol the recipe creator did a great job confusing my brain :) at least it isn't super perfumy green leaf now :)

#202 by Tara, May 6. 2018, 07:19

Now I'm thinking it is a grape rolled in green leaves with sugar on top. Where does all the sweetness come from? Cactus or grape flavor?

#203 by homeros10, May 6. 2018, 14:52

Hahaha ikr weird mix, the sweetness come from sweet strawberry 🍓

#204 by TwinsWin, May 6. 2018, 17:19

I don't like the alternate version as much. O'well, its still good.

#205 by TwinsWin, May 6. 2018, 17:22

@Tara, I was the same way when I first tried it. Like "Wtf am I tasting!?" lol. Then I vaped it a ton. Realized I wasn't tasting it as well. I had to put it down a while. Tried it again a month later and oh so good.

#206 by TwinsWin, May 7. 2018, 01:59

@Homeros, how did you post that strawberry?

#207 by homeros10, May 7. 2018, 02:05

@twinswin how do u mean

#208 by 2kdime, May 7. 2018, 02:09

I don’t know if it’s the grape or the cactus that got changed. I’ve heard conflicting info. But my newest batches and even the alternate batch just taste “off”. I’ve got some of the Black Currant version just sitting in the cupboard for a rainy day.

#209 by Tara, May 13. 2018, 04:51

tastes like a floral purple juicey candy now . :) I like it ! 13.5 watts MTL 1.2 ohm

#210 by x0r, May 15. 2018, 19:15

Mixed it yesterday, and tried it today. Tastes a little strange. Maybe it's the cactus that needs to come down a little. No grapes for me yet. I used WS-23 @ 1% and it's not too cool. Just a little. Will try in a week again.

#211 by TwinsWin, May 22. 2018, 02:08

I take it back. I'm really enjoying the alternate flavored version now. I guess I just needed to let it sit a while.
@homeros10, I meant in your post #204, after "sweet strawberry" there is an actual red strawberry. I'll try with my keyboard, maybe that's how you did it...🍓🍓🍓🍬🍰🎂🍎🍏🍊🍋🍒🍇🍉🍑🍈🍌🍐🍍🍠

#212 by 2kdime, May 22. 2018, 02:10

Don’t know what happened to mine. Mixed up about 250ml and tasted ok at first. Been steeping about 6 weeks now. Tried it the other day and I just taste soap 🤢🤢🤢

#213 by Whooptidooh, Jun 3. 2018, 00:43

Just made this two hours ago. It’s weird as hell, but I like it. Curious as to how much it will change in the future. All good I hope! 👌

#214 by 2ndCH4NCE, Jun 30. 2018, 16:27

Was mixing this, going "Yikes, Is this going to be good at all?" Very good. Right up my alley. Thanks.

#215 by intangir, Aug 4. 2018, 03:31

Love this and I'm not a big fan of "grape" flavor other than the flavor of real grapes. When I first smelled the INW Grape I was worried because it smells like pure purple artificial grape flavor.

The final juice definitely has a grape profile to it, but all of the extra ingredients really take the edge off and prevent it from tasting too much like purple. Just this weird indescribable wet fruity taste.

I tried this without coolant and it was delicious and then added 1% WS-23. Sometimes the coolant effect messes too much with the flavors but it fits perfectly here. However, if you're not a fan, it's still great regular.

#216 by 2kdime, Aug 9. 2018, 04:13

Trying some super steeped Black Currant and it’s much better. Any word on the original formula? Have we nailed down what changed in the flavorings? Need to get a bunch of the original mix done up again. It was INCREDIBLE.

#217 by TwinsWin, Aug 9. 2018, 17:46

@2kdime I've read claims of "inconsistent batches" of certain flavorings out of Inawera. @Homeros and others got some bad grape. I haven't experienced the problems they had. I have gotten my grape from Bullcity and Vaperstek and it's been fine.

I agree about the black currant/blackberry version. It's really good but it needs more time to come together than the original.

#218 by LondonHal, Oct 2. 2018, 22:08

Guys I only have Grape from Flavorah do we think this will be ok??

#219 by Vikash, Oct 21. 2018, 14:42

My Favorite! I mix this regularly Thanks for the recipe @Philosaphucker

#220 by Astur, Nov 1. 2018, 04:36

@Philosaphucker have you ever tried to sub TPA Dragon Fruit with INW Pitaya Dragon Fruit? Anyway I'll try in my next batch :-)

#221 by Astur, Nov 1. 2018, 04:52

Well, ConcreteRiver says they are not swapable, so I'll wait until I get a better opinion.

#222 by Philosaphucker, Nov 1. 2018, 14:24

@Astur I have not tried that. TFA and INW Dragon fruit are very different beasts. I don't think it would taste bad though.

#223 by Debbiej, Nov 13. 2018, 04:20

Been my daughters only vape going on 2 yrs!

#224 by Justpeeking, Nov 27. 2018, 22:19

Tried it, liked it, made a big batch. ran out of Cactus - again - substituted with Jackfruit (All I had left) that should be interesting. will post an edit if it's any good.

#225 by Nomorebutts, Dec 3. 2018, 23:30

Just mixed this with a couple changes

Subbed FA meringue with TPA meringue just because I don't have FA and read TPA is a good sub

Dropped INW grape to 2.50% just because it seemed to high to me. First impressions off the SNV arent bad but seems maybe i can up the grape INW grape to 3% next time. Need to let it steep for a few days to see what happens. My experience with INW grape is it gives that sort of grape Flintstone vitamin chewable pills from when I was a kid.

I dropped INW cactus to 1.25% because again it just seemed to high for my taste. All just personal preference.

I added 1.50% FA white grape in hopes to round out the grape flavor. Like I said grape flavor needs to be upped a little bit in what I mixed so might try this at 1.75%-2% along with upping the INW grape to 3%.

Seems like it could benefit from a little bit of sweetener but to early to tell. After a couple day steep going to retest and go from there

#226 by beeker, Dec 8. 2018, 23:33

I had to see what all the buzz was about on /r/DIY_eJuice, so I picked up some cactus and INW grape. The hype was justified. This is like nothing else I've vaped, in a good way. I did have to use less WS-23 than the listed amount for Koolada- 2/3 of the amount was more than enough cooling for me.

Thanks for the legendary recipe Phucker!

#227 by Cstober, Mar 9. 2019, 04:52

Does anyone know if there is a difference between TPA Koolada and Ecigexpress' koolada? Hard finding find this info...but when I use 0.10% ecigexpress', it's super overpowering. Although, I'm not a menthol fan - 0.75% koolada seems unbelievable. Thanks

#228 by atssec97, Mar 21. 2019, 14:44

Mixed up a 30ml tester last week and tried it this morning! 5 Stars for this one! Thanks for sharing. Btw I did have to order the grape and cactus from BCF, used the ws-23 in the mix and I am digging this recipe!
Anyone recommend other Grape recipes that work?

#229 by StopIt, Mar 27. 2019, 03:06

Best DIY juice I've made yet. 2 day steep, don't make large batches, fades. Koolada @ 0.5% Thx for posting.

#230 by NDogg, Apr 1. 2019, 10:53

This is an obscene amount of cactus. Worst juice I've mixed, and that's saying something. All the positive comments here are bizarre to me. It was ever so slightly improved after 5 weeks, but the cactus completely dominates. I might try again with 0.5% cactus and see how that works, I think there's potential here. This is more of a sensation than a flavour, it's an experience for sure. Put some in my tank two days ago, it's all I can taste still.

#231 by StopIt, Apr 1. 2019, 23:21

I actually put to much Dragon Fruit in first time, made again correctly and kinda bland. Added DF to 3%, now good again. I don't even like DF that much, but works here. So if you don't like, add more DF.

#232 by federete, May 12. 2019, 00:37

I have to try this! Can't imagine how is it going to taste.
One quick question: can I go with TPA Raspberry Sweet instead of INW Raspberry (Malina)? Have all the others but the grapes, which I'll order soon (another order again :-O)

#233 by federete, May 16. 2019, 22:21

Finally tried it, with all the official ingredients. It's good, need to get familiar with it. First time I tried Cactus Tropical hated it, now I love it. It reminds me a little bit of pinkman. Very original, great job!

#234 by AreTooMeToo, Jul 18. 2019, 01:44

Decent with nice inhale. Little funky exhale and aftertaste. Hoping a good steep helps

#235 by MaxPerron, Oct 11. 2019, 16:59

Hi Philosaphucker, thanks for this receipe!! 5 stars.

I ordered all the flavours and followed the recipe accurately. After a week of steep, I was really disappointed, you could perceive a strange (chemical) taste coming from the grape. I deduced that this is maybe due to a reformulation of the grape by INW. Otherwise, after forgetting the liquid for another 2 weeks. OMG! what a nice surprise, the grape is now completely mixed and literally melts into the rest of the mixture. Koolada brings out a perfumed note of other flavours.

Thanks again for this nice (no sugar) Fruits blend that saves my coils over a longer period of time.

#236 by Niv, Oct 11. 2019, 17:27

Very tasty and flavorful! Love it.

#237 by defe123, Dec 4. 2019, 02:11

Awesome recipe. Should I change percentages if I would want to make it 50/50 12mg MTL or keep same?

#238 by nzDeadRabbit, Jan 23. 2020, 01:51

The hype is real!! Awesome stuff this!

#239 by DIYDovi, May 1. 2020, 20:36

@Philosaphucker Man I'm about to give this a shot in quarantine however I need it quick. I have all the ingredients expent i only have WS-23 20%, how would you rate I balance this?
Is it worth waiting and letting it steep or should I just give it ago from the bat as I'm in need of a very good shake and vape?

#240 by Rdubu, Sep 7. 2020, 03:54

@Philosaphucker I really like Grack Juice, but have one question. Why no more recipes in last 4 years?

#241 by Philosaphucker, Sep 7. 2020, 21:47

@Rdubu I moved publishing to alltheflavors.com a while ago. But lately, I haven't been publishing anything. Lately, my mixing has been me just picking a few flavors off the top of my head and throwing together a one-off. My energies have been spent elsewhere :)

#242 by jbitts, Nov 10. 2020, 19:52

Finally decided to order all the flavorings for this, been on the fence awhile if I should make this or not but its 2020 what the hell. I like weird shit lol, will report back soon

#243 by jbitts, Nov 19. 2020, 03:43

wow, the hype is real, wish I mix this up in the summer, maybe one of the best hot day vapes I've tried and weird as fuck at the same time, well done.

#244 by jbitts, Nov 20. 2020, 07:03

day 2 vaping this, wholey shit. wtf, I can't get over this. This really is the crack of the vaping world. Rocking it in my RTA non stop so then I decided to mix it up 12mg 50/50 for my Caliburn. Great for mtl as well but excels in direct lung higher wattage. Its crazy how the flavor changes depending what temp your vaping at. I had to add 0.5 super sweet to bumps those fruits up even more. This shit is insane and pure madness. Grackhead for life now. I haven't really touched my previous all day vape since which I cannot believe. What kinda whimsical sorcery is this shit

#245 by Apathy, Jun 23. 2021, 19:02

Is there another grape that works in this?

#246 by jbitts, Aug 8. 2021, 01:23

@Apathy sorry but no, the Inw Grape is the main profile pretty much. I still vape this stuff all summer with 0.5% ws-23, everything else mix up exactly as posted. Worth putting together, let it steep 3 days.

#247 by Paulão, Apr 21. 2022, 04:17

I've been vaping this for some time, and it's absolutely amazing. The ice is really balanced and right on the spot. Thanks a lot for this!
If you reading this is having second thoughts.. well, just don't. u won't regret it, I promise

#248 by JAMM, Aug 1. 2022, 05:06

Can I use WS23 instead Koolada?

#249 by Apathy, Aug 1. 2022, 19:35

@jamm yes, ws23 is better imho, as koolada has that vegatel taste, also if you read the original posters edit they switched to ws23 as well

#250 by Apathy, Aug 1. 2022, 19:36

I personally use .15% of ws23 but use what ya want. To me .5% of ws23 is VERY cold

#251 by JAMM, Aug 2. 2022, 04:40

Is not much cactus?

#252 by Ken O'Where, Aug 2. 2022, 06:09

@JAMM

TL;dr: Best answer is you will have to give it a try and decide for yourself.

I reckon that depends entirely on you. For me personally i cant go over .5% in anything or all i taste is aloe. It is my max and that is in a mix with Absinthe and apples and another with anise, licorice and Absinthe.

BUT..

Across the vapeverse lots of people have loved this juice, for years, using all kinds of different gear. And it has spawned many many variants. Bull City Flavors has a flavor pack for it even, tho i dont see the link here for some reason.

https://www.bullcityflavors.com/grack-juice-by-philosaphucker/

This is why i asked the questions, everything is subjective and every single piece of gear changes the flavor, even down to a drip tip. From the coil to the wattage used, wire types, wick material, everything affects the flavor to some degree. Gonna have to give it a go and find out for yourself, for me this is the most fun part of it all.

#253 by JAMM, Aug 23. 2022, 18:12

Esta cosa sabe horrible, tiene un sabor a orégano, no se dónde encuentran el sabor a uva, lleva 2 semanas macerando y sabe horrible

#254 by Jordi, Sep 7. 2022, 19:08

Just mixed it, its very wierd but its very good! I cant tel what this tastes like.. its giving me life questions 🤣. Cant wait untill its steeped!!

#255 by Jordi, Sep 13. 2022, 16:47

Its fucking epic! This is really 12monkeys class mixing! After a week its just perfectly balanced. its really addicting to take that first hit again where the taste really gives a boom feeling every single time... After years of searching i finally found an high class liquid that is also very cheap to make! Many many thanks. I really wish i found this one earlyer!
Oh and i added 0.6% super sweet from capella, this really finished the liquid for me.

#256 by 802Snowyowl, Oct 25. 2022, 21:34

Tastes like grape scented bath salts.

#257 by kamanza, Mar 6, 16:12

Mixed it with WS 23 istead of Koolada; Cactus looked too much, so I took it down to 1.5%. Nice vape, very unique taste. Cactus still seems too strong, so next time I'll take it further down to 1-1.25%. Can't give more than 4 stars on account of cactus.