i generally hide all my recipes but would like some help and suggestions from the community on this one! please post any comments or guidence in the comments section below.
much love,
-reasonably dan
i based the other ingredients on this recipe by cheftoworks called wildberry chill:
EM (1.0%) 0.75%
Menthol (10%) 0.75%
CAP blackberry 3.25%
CAP blueberry 4%
CAP raspberry 3%
Sucralose 1%
*everything was spot on but i feel CAP's harvest berry will replace the three berries with better results. harvest berry is mainly a smooth raspberry but with blackberry and blueberry undertones (maybe a bit of huckleberry too).
v1.20AUG17.
in version 1 i took the recipe above and subbed all the fruits for CP's harvest berry at 6% (anything higher and it can get purfumy)
TPA EM (10% PG) 0.75%
TPA menthol (10% PG) 0.5%
CAP super sweet 0.5%
CAP harvest berry 6%
results: shake and vape'd. a liitle too much harvest berry flavor, and too sweet (though i accidently put almost double the sweetener). dryer than i remember. but this is very close. some say there is some kind of mint-but i dont think so. its also possible they are using a better menthol or CP's cool mint. should try cactus, FA pear or FA black current to juicen up the mix. i do remember tasting apple so pear may be the one.
v2.12SEP17.bought another bottle today and am pretty sure CAP's cool mint is not in there as i taste no vanilla tictak. i think FW blueberry is still the best contender because there is no way they are using any HS flavors. in the original i taste a strong blueberry in front and throughout but with a light raspberry. dont think i actually taste blackberry so harvest berry is still my first choice-its sweet raspberry forward and light blackberry/huckleberry. i taste no lemon in the original.
CAP harvest berry 3%
TPA ethyl maltol (10%) 0.75%
FA arctic winter (menthol) 0.75%
CAP super sweet 0.5%
FW blueberry 3%
results: great blueberry flavor from FW blueberry, im really getting a ripe plump blueberry tatse thats just a little candied-too prominent for what we are going for here, dropping it to 2%. very satisfied with this mix but also the FA menthol needs to be increased maybe even doubled. sweeteness is on point but the raspberry and blackberry has taken a backseat to the blueberry-i am increasing it. if it does not give a vibrant raspberry falvor i should add a raspberry and still keep the harvest at 2-3% because i love the complexity and how it boosts the blueberry to where i can almost taste the seeds! testing beside the actual juice im realizing that there is mostly some sort of menthol-like flavoring and just a light berries flavor, all with minimal
v3.28SEP17
FW blue ice 6%
FW razzleberry 3%
FW blueberry 2%
results:
damn this is a great juice! a little too sweet to be "very cool" but is SO good, if it just had a bit more of that sour rasberry it would be a perfect recipe on its own. however the berries could be a bit lighter. in reguards to the clone it is way too sweet, just a bit less cold and does not have that slightly sour berry topnote. after two days the weird chalky koolada taste from the FW blue ice dies down almost completely and i am hopeful this flavor is in naked's version-however it may need to be at like 4% with some WS-23 because there is a hint of ment in it that is not in the original. really love the razzleberry but either its too strong or its another combination of flavors its really sweet. feel comfortable with the amount of blueberry but am not getting the boost that i did with the CAP harvest berry (but harvest berry is so sweet).
v4.5OCT17.
CAP raspberry v1 3%
FW blueberry 2%
WS-23 1.5%
FW blackberry 1% (should have added this later)
results: very sweet and slightly funky raspberry with hidden blueberry and too much WS-23 (at 1.5% its aggressively cold and has somewhat of a dry coolness, though this dry feeling could be coming from the blackberry or raspberry) luckily i get no off flavor from it and it seems very clean. i dont think CAP raspberry v1 is the droid were looking for-its sweet and a little almost creamy but that could also be coming from the blackberry. though i feel that there is a slight creamyness thats almost certainly from the raspberry since it contains DAAP this would make sense. testing beside the original there is actually more berry flavor total in this version and i certainly think the CAP rasp is not the one. smelling the original beside different strawberries the likely contenders are CAP sweet straw, TPA straw organic, and FW straw in that order. of all my recipes yet this one is the furthest-though it is pretty tasty.
v5.29OCT17. just to try and get that mid flavor thats missing.
FA black current 3% (maybe TPA grape juice but its a bit funkier)
FW blueberry 2%
results:
too much black current but i can see it working in this mix. definately works as a juicening agent and has somewhat of that strawberry greens type flavor to fill out the middle. it also is not super sweet (just a little). reccomend trying at 1.5%. should also try TFA grape juice. think FW blue ice should be at 4%.
v6.20NOV17.
FW blue ice 5% - then 6% - then 7% (raspberry comes out at 7%)
CAP blackberry 4% (has grape and mint notes)
FW blueberry 2% - then 3%
results: on a shake and vape i am so glad i found CAP blackberry! not only does it have a flat grapelike flavor in the mids of the original but it has a slight mint to it (a review said 4% was a good balance of fruit vs grape/mint notes and that it gets weird lower) but it totally took over this recipe at 4%-either both others need to be increased or this needs to be taken down. it also is absolutely not sweet, and even seems to drive the sweeteness of the other two flavors down to almost zero. added 1% more blue ice and 1% more blueberry. after increasing these i found the recipe so much more pleasant and closer! think CAP blackberry should be at 3.25%, FW blue ice 7%, and FW blueberry 3%. the recipe could also use some EM-not sure if circus (blue and lots of vanilla), blue rasp cotton candy (2% or below lots of burnt sugar and pretty dry), or regular EM will be best? it also will need WS-23 at 0.5-0.75%. after adding one more % FW blue ice making 7% i can clearly taste the raspberry at that percent but there is also a bitter chalkyness at 7 that was not there at 6. maybe 6.5 would work?
added just over 0.5% CAP blue raspberry cotton candy. very subtle at this amount but may steep in. like the boost to the blue raspberry i get. but tasting the original this needs to be increased to at least 0.75% and the recipe is missing a green strawberry note and some sweeteness maybe from fruit, but it probably has 0.5% FW sweetener in it.
i added 1.5% TFA strawberry and it seemed to completely miss the mark but then i added another 1.5% and it seems very close. reccomend 3% but still want to try FW's. something is fovibg a birnt sugar taste, it may be my coil but i am guessing its the CAP blue raspberry cotton candy as it carries that note.
v7.24NOV17.Kayu
FW blue ice 7%
CAP harvest berry 4%
TPA strawberry 4%
FW blueberry 3%
TPA lemon tpa .5% (had to sub FA lemon sicily at the same %)
results: steeped 1.5 days. great recipe, close to the original if you add koolada/WS-23 at 0.5%. the chalky taste of FW blue ice (from its koolada) dissipates in 1-2 days. it's slightly too blueberry forward, with a light tarness from the raspberry following. the strawberry is hidden just adding a berry-body to the middle. the FW blueberry is boosted by not only the harvest berry but by the blue ice (which is an ambiguous blue flavor with koolada). after tasting the original against this i think of the original as more of a strawberry recipe that has been bent with a raspberry to give it a more present top end without being very sweet. this strawberry is acented by a strong blueberry body. i still taste no blackberry in the original but CAP blackberry may be greening things up in there. i would say from the original that the menthol and therefore blue ice is at 5% and i definately taste EM. i also taste something upfront that tastes mildly soapybut just a tad. i dont think CAP harvesy berry is in there (at least at 4%) as it seems to water down the topend. i also think there is too much blueberry in this mix.
v8.
LA raspberry 5%
FW blackberry 3%
FW blueberry 1.5%
FA lemon sicily 0.5%
results: did not make notes right away but from what i remember it was not a good mix. the raspberry was overpowering it was harsh.
v9.just a test to see if its spearmint and strawberry thats front.
FW blue ice 3%
FW blueberry 2%
FW extream ice 0.25%
CAP harvest berry 1.5%
TFA strawberry ripe 1%
WS-23 0.5%
results: needs more blue ice, way less extream ice, and more strawberry though i think TFA strawberry ripe would work better as i taste maltol. needs more cooling to be like the original.
just tried as a shake and vape but think this would be closer:
v10. HAVE NOT MADE YET.
FW blue ice 6%
FW blueberry 4%
CAP harvest berry 1.5%
FW strawberry 5% (this could also be CAP juicy peach at like 0.5-1%, strawberry ripe 2%, or maybe FW blue raspberry, maybe TFA sweet raspberry)
EM 0.75%
v11.
CAP blackberry 2%
FW blueberry 2%
FA lemon sicily 0.5%
LA raspberry colorless 5%
FW strawberry 4%
results: with just 5% LA rasp and 2% FW blue, after just a shake and vape the blueberry takes over the recipe and the muddled top of the raspberry is present with just a bit of its sourness. still pretty good but that blueberry will have to be taken down unless it steeps out or the other ingredients tame it. with 4% FW straw it really adds a nice green strawberry to the top-middle and it also brings back the raspberry quite nicely! i may think about either increasing the raspberry by 1% or dropping the strawberry by 1% as the sourness of the raspberry is lost.
v12. after revisiting wayne’s MISTY recipe i subbed out INW shisha strawberry for TPA’s and immediately knew this was close to “very cool.” check out my flavor-note for FLV boysenberry. THAT’S WHAT WE WE’RE MISSING!!!
FLV boysenberry 3%
FW blueberry 2%
results: right now im only testing as a shake and vape but ive tested the FLV boysenberry at 3% and though the mix is a little too blueberry, it will settle down. boysenberry gives that exact raspberry and blackberry weve been killing ourselves to try and find! its candied without being too sweet and absolutely no floral or off flavors. 100% sure the main profile is FLV boysenberry and FW blueberry. if the blueberry doesnt steep out i will reduce it and it still may need TPA or FW strawberry. i will test wil FW blue ice but it just may be menthol+koolada/WS-23. not sure if lemon is needed but will test that too.
flavors try try:
FA pear, CAP juicy peach with raspberry sweet, FW strawberry, 2% FA black current, 1% FW blackberry, 1% CAP harvest berry, 1% TPA sweet raspberry, 0.75% WS-23, 1% FW razzleberry, 0.5% FW extream ice
FUN FACT: vaporgates blue smurf is just 4-5% CAP harvest berry and 0.5-1% CAP vanilla whipped cream.
FUN FACT: OSDIY blue raspberry slushy is said to be the best at 8% max but needs some help from other raspberries such as TFA sweet raspberry. Wonder Flavors sour blue raspberry candy may actually be the best though as it is not only sweet but actually tart! -best to use this at no more than 3%. LB blue raspberry is great at 6% max but is just a bit think and needs help as well.-this flavor really works well with CAP blue raspberry cotton candy 0.5-1% to round it out.
FUN FACT: CAP hibiscus at 0.75-1.5% is great for slushy mixes. look up mlnikon's lime slush recipe on ATF.
There is a blueberry on the back, the main profile seems to be something alike a blue raspberry, maybe harvest berry with blue raspberry, however what i am missing is that specific blueberry they use, its very subtle, but its the back and it makes the juice come alive when you exhale.
ITS not Fw blueberry, its not wild or extra or a combination(maybe it is but i havent found the exact one), tried capella blueberry seems to be way to weak it doesnt even register on the mix, unlike its brother very berry, this doesnt seems to have lemon, or at least the menthol just eats it.