A sweetener is needed in this recipe, in order for the tartness to come out. You can easily leave it out, and to be honest I am not really 100% sure that it works. I do know that this is a great tasting recipe though. My nephew says it tastes like a jolly rancher. To me, it doesn't have the
" pucker " that a jolly rancher has.
I have played with this recipe for months and it's as good as I can make it. If you have a suggestion, I am open-minded. I am still trying new stuff. If it gets better, I'll make a note of it.
I am totally fed up with Real Flavors, I will no longer purchase from them and I either gave away what I had of theirs or tossed it.
SS isn't needed with both Raz's and if Blue Raz's Cotton Candy is like Cap that's even more.
If you want tart then WF Sour blue, hard candy, or if you want the pucker a little CAP's Jelly Candy might be the star of the show to blend it all together. I don't know if RF's BB is the right one.
There are other ideas but I'm *attempting* to make a blue raspberry also and I have Blue/Dark Raz too. I want to nail it down 100% first because it will be my first recipe and I won't post one until I'm perfectly content. I have a lot more ideas and stuff I've been playing around that might work for you too but I don't want ours to be 1:1 so I'll hold off, but I think you can add another raspberry on top of that, one is a single and another is a blend of two different types of raspbery's. There is a certain apple (not fuji) that could go in there too. Maybe a citrus just to cut it a bit with all the strong raspberry notes.
I'm going to post mine on reddit/ATF but maybe in 2 more weeks I should have something that is in the beta stage that I can see what people think and ask advice. I'm going more of slush and pure blue raz but not sickening sweet either.
I'll send you a PM if you want to mix it up and let me know what you think. I don't have the BB, Cotton Candy, or FA's Marshmallow but I'll be picking that one up for sure with the upcoming Memorial day sales. I already have Caps BB cotton candy and I don't think I'll pick up RF's BB that I had it in 1 in my cart for .75 cents for mothers day sale and next thing you know I hit refresh and I missed out. I do have their Blue Raz though.
Let me know if I can do anything because it looks like you have something good, better than most of the 4,623 other blue raz's recipes here that are probably horrible (I just come here the notes) but somebody linked yours on the forum.
Awesome! I can't wait for you to post it. Yes, for sure hook me up with a link. I usually make 2oo ml so I can keep working on it, but my nephew will vape it all up. I only put a drop per 30 ml of the SS, I should have put that in my notes.
I agree about the BB, I was never much into it, and to be honest, I don't want to by every BB under the sun, until I find the one I want.
I have yet to try any WF flavors, but I'll put that sour blue in my shopping list.
As for (SC) RF flavors, their fruits are usually pretty good and I picked up like 12 for $6.00 and 8 of them are pretty good.
I have tried this recipe with all of the raspberries that I own. No, I am wrong, I haven't tried MF wild raspberry yet.
Anywho, for sure looking forward to your recipe, Good luck.
One thing that's going around (check the forum) is that RF's SC flavors in any mix will mute the whole recipe down due to what they put in it. For candy flavors LA's Raspberry is the way to go and the other is a mix of FW's Razzleberry and FA's Raspberry in a 3:1 --- I have to check my notes or watch "noted" on youtube talking about raspberries.
3% TPA BB Extra 2% FW BB .5% FA Bilberry -- Mix that up alone or to give it even more of a kick add .25% FA Lemon Sicily or .25% CAP Lemon Lime. FLV boysenberry should also be considered too and it's weaker than most of the other FLV flavors so you can go a bit higher.
If you want a slushy feel people just found out that .5% of CAP Hibiscus works perfectly which Apex put in his popular Blue Raspberry mix: https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/54784
There are a few more notes. I didn't mean to be all secretive or anything, we seem to have the same stuff, however you're going for more of a jolly rancher candy where I'm more of a slush but we can work together and I'll just post a few different testers that I'm working on in the comments here or PM you if it's more toward the finish line. Comment if you tried anything that I posted or that you've tried so we can both compare notes to hopefully bring both of ours to the next level.
I don't have any MF flavors yet but with Memorial day's sales coming up I might get some more flavors. Are you thinking of picking up anything? MolinBerry & NicVape is supposed to have both good BB's but like you I have so many damn BB and Blue Raspberry flavors as it is.
Hey Dan I just picked up Black Label Blue Raspberry SC RF. I have 3 10ml bottles and I'll send ya one if you want. It was one of their specials and you say they have some decent fruits so I said what the h*ll might as well give it a shot. Haven't tried it yet and it's my 1st blue raz flavor so not sure what to do with it yet. I hope it's good.
Best of luck in your business venture Dan. Let me know about that French toast whenever you get around to trying it. I avoided picking it up since it was a bakery flavor but if it's better than their og stuff then I will pick it up. I love French toast. Also looking forward to working with the blue raz and seeing what you come up with.
Heatho72 I just read a thread over at VC. It is a bit disturbing and I am not sure if I will get any RF concentrates anytime soon. I will leave a link if your interested
xx2000xx You probably won't need to read it, because you already don't like RF, but here is the thread
Holy Sh#t that was a crazy thing to read and thanks for letting me know about it. I think I won't use any RF flavors unless this gets sorted out. Maybe not even then. SUCKS!!!
I know right? Seems Sketchy. It's funny because xx2000xx mentioned muting by RF. I'm like, "haven't noticed". Then I go and try your Cheesecake base V3. I had put some RF Blck berry in it, and the whole thing tastes like... nothing, almost.
Walt seems like a pretty cool guy, but I trust sprkslfly
oh well, I still like a couple of their fruits. I'll just stay out of the drama and see what happens.
I think I'll avoid that drama too. Recently I've used RF sugar cookie and strawberry. I didn't notice any muting but I have in the past with other bakeries. Sucks 'cause I have some of every type of RF flavors. Oh well.
I don't know. I think the guys talking in that thread have something against RF, not sure. I have some too. 18 to be precise. I think 8 of them I like. I got all of them very cheap, so I'm not complaining. I think, the way you and I mix, there won't be much of a problem with muting. We don't normally use concentrates in the 6% range. The only one I use at that percentage is Cap's VC v1 and I have been dropping it lately.
Personally I don't think Walt is trying to be...sketchy. I think he is a vaper that loves vaping and is trying to keep his business together.
I think the biggest problem with some of his concentrates is the Fading.
eg. I like the blueberry but if I want to TASTE the blueberry I have to add it a week before the recipe is ready. Which is way to much for me to try and remember.lol
So far I have only used RF for adding sweetness or juiciness to a recipe.
Oh well I think I am babbling again. Peace out Brother man.
I agree with your assessment of Walt. I actually have a recipe I made a week ago that uses vg bread pudding. I haven't tasted it since I'm letting it rest a month 1st, It also has MF green apple (thanks again) so the month wait is nescesary. I'll know more about the muting issue then. There's some strong concentrates in it so I'll notice any muting. Peace bro.
Sorry for getting back so late. I knew a bout the fading from a high level mixer a while back which is why I didn't bother with RF Blue Raz in my mix or bother with any of their flavors at all which is a shame because they filled a little niche that was different than others, however Vape Train (pm bull city now) and Jungle Flavors are picking up the slack.
Hopefully others like Molinberry & Nicvape can get in with bull/ecig and I do know that nicotineriver is looking and working with different companies right now trying to add to their line. I heard about Walt who is one of the true pioneers on youtube giving out knowledge and heard stories about how great he is in the community.
I had too many iterations going on at once and I had to dump so many including Blue & Dark Raz, WF sour, hibiscus etc.... I steeped both Raz's to death along with Dark Fruit which I got as a sample that might be the best actually. I love the blue raz but there's no way I'm putting that in a mix because it'll never gain traction but if the dark/blue combo was insane, which I was banking on due to JoJo's notes, then I'd do 2 different versions.
I wasn't a fan of their dark raz as it was harsh as hell and in the middle of writing this I took out my dark/blue raz that I mixed on 5/2 and it did finally tone down but it needs a lot of steeping which I don't want and that's why I never played around with LB blue raz which is too chemical and needs a lot of steeping or BB Cotton Candy (EM anyways) FA's rasp etc.. and hard to work on my profile. The Dark Fruit might be the best of the bunch though funny enough.
I've been a fan of BB Trinity the day he posted it and I'm not going to lie that was the base and work that in with BB Slush & Raspberry. I had to cut the % in half at first because the percentages #'s were getting out of hand along with being handy capped starting off with 3 flavors. I got up to 10-11 at one point and I think 6 different companies but I was on to something. Still am though, I had to tweak the base and my raspberry combo was Inw raasp (molina) along with razzelberry.
I had to do a bit of a reset to get it where I want. I knew one key was Shisha Raspberry that I put off to see if I could nail it but I got that and I was right. I also picked up blackcurrent & I've had CAP's blackberry forever unopened to see how it would work also because FLV boysenberry is thrown in the mix too which is an awesome flavor and it's just trying to see how they all bounce off each other.
Then I threw in a crazy wild card, like Apex's Pink Campaign, to make the BB slushy with the popular "fizzy sherbert" from Vape Train which also would pop the fruit notes too.
So I got another major batch going. I'll have to re-check but trinity had to be his full % because cutting it in half didin't work with slush from 4 to 7% and I really want to blast that like everybody else does.
I know how to unlock the puzzle though to dump some of these accent flavors to get where I want without adding flavors, things like BB extra needs to go and while the trinity is good 8.5% off the bat along with 5-6 more flavors is out of control just to boost the rasp/bb into a true blue raspberry candy & slush. And that would be: e-liquid-recipes.com/flavor/13081
Really *don't* want to blast the BB slush I meant. Kind of a big thing because so damn sweet and at 67% VG it sits on top of all the mixes to where I'd have to cut it with probably Flavor Expresses Lemon that is top of the food chain and I always wanted to avoid cutting it with lemon/lime/strawberry/cactus and let ws-23 do that work along with going outside of the box of the 40 different razes that's posted every day in fizzy sherbert because I refuse to be one of those random 40 people throwing the same thing. Slush, BB Cotton Candy, lemon sicily, tpa sour rasp or FA's rasp, super sweet etc etc.........
Oh yea I'll definitely take that off your hands thanks. Forgot to mention, I threw in a little Cap LMP V1 in your vapemail. Hope you didn't order it already but it won't go to waste if you did. It's an awesome flavor and soooo easy to work with.✌🏻️
I'm good. The Dark Raz/Fruit I don't think I'll use again. Same goes for you though, I have way too many blueberry/raspberry/bb rasp flavors and if you want to try some I'll mail it out to you. I'll try to update my list (I'm a ATF guy) here and make it public.
On the side I've been working on a few different things even before blue raspberry as minty & menthol type flavors has always been my favorite and never really was a dessert guy at all really until a few months ago really where now I can handle the sweetness by making my own.
MT Bakers famous toothpaste: Extreme Ice (FW's Ice is 1:1) got me started and was my ADV for 3 years straight without fault until I tried seduce juice's white walker that totally ruined that and vaping for me because it opened me up to a whole new world and I've been trying to nail that down along with others.
I see that nicvape is having a 50% off sale. I got FLV's version but the chocolate note is a bit too strong, which is fine, because I've got a few things going with Molinberry's Glamour Choc and Jungle Juice's Dulce de Leche, which is excellent.
DIYORDIE's crew & Reddit's main place. It's the place to go by a mile as I only go here for notes really because I can't be bothered sorting through all the sub-par stuff here.
You can import your flavors from here too. The system isn't 100% dead on but it'll catch 70+% or so of your flavors and you can do "what can I make" etc.... $2 a month for premium, which is well worth it IMO with the batch system and other features. Needs more work but that's where most of the top mixers post.
I made my list public so rattle off any/all flavors you'd be interested in and I'll see what I can do. A lot I never use or some are so strong I'd take me 4 years to use it all. If I need a bit I'll just put it in a spare and send you the original bottle.
BTW: here's a private beta version of a Raspberry Ice Cream Custard that I whipped up and it's pretty damn good. tjek.nu/r/mXNR?token=9519582d0570268
I have a template to work with for sure at least. I'm going to do the 5% LB IC .5% HS French Vanilla next to see how that works out. Also, sub out the VBIC and throw in FA Marsh with 2 other batches using Shisha Vanilla & Vanilla Whip Cream --- Milk & Honey could be used too. Mint needs to be upped a bit or I'll add FA's Peppermint.
I gotta say; I am totally pissed right now. I have 3 RF flavors that work quite well, in this recipe. I went to purchase them in 30ml or 4oz. but they only sell 10ml or 16oz. Holy shit!!! WTF? Ok, they sell to vendors and then they brake it down. So I went to 4 or 5 different vendors and no one has what I want. RF is not worth the F*cking hassle.
So now, I have to totally start bleep bleeping OVER!!!! Oh well, shit happens I guess, and I really need to calm down.
I don't know who rebottles RF but it's not worth it and they're not that good. Vape Train is kicking some ass and bullcity carries OOO stuff now and will be adding more, while gremlindiy has molinberry.
Here is what you do though and that's go to chefsflavours.co.uk - And the world is at your fingertips as it's the best store and shipping to the US is a flat $5.50 I think. There are so many flavors that they have there they we can't get in the US it's not even funny.
If you want tart then WF Sour blue, hard candy, or if you want the pucker a little CAP's Jelly Candy might be the star of the show to blend it all together. I don't know if RF's BB is the right one.
There are other ideas but I'm *attempting* to make a blue raspberry also and I have Blue/Dark Raz too. I want to nail it down 100% first because it will be my first recipe and I won't post one until I'm perfectly content. I have a lot more ideas and stuff I've been playing around that might work for you too but I don't want ours to be 1:1 so I'll hold off, but I think you can add another raspberry on top of that, one is a single and another is a blend of two different types of raspbery's. There is a certain apple (not fuji) that could go in there too. Maybe a citrus just to cut it a bit with all the strong raspberry notes.
I'm going to post mine on reddit/ATF but maybe in 2 more weeks I should have something that is in the beta stage that I can see what people think and ask advice. I'm going more of slush and pure blue raz but not sickening sweet either.
I'll send you a PM if you want to mix it up and let me know what you think. I don't have the BB, Cotton Candy, or FA's Marshmallow but I'll be picking that one up for sure with the upcoming Memorial day sales. I already have Caps BB cotton candy and I don't think I'll pick up RF's BB that I had it in 1 in my cart for .75 cents for mothers day sale and next thing you know I hit refresh and I missed out. I do have their Blue Raz though.
Let me know if I can do anything because it looks like you have something good, better than most of the 4,623 other blue raz's recipes here that are probably horrible (I just come here the notes) but somebody linked yours on the forum.