Recipe posted at reddit, after years of development
Anise INW has a slight tingling effect on my lips, I don't know if anyone else is experiencing this. But I don't get this sensation with Licorice INW or any other Anise (tried FA, TFA, FW) - And I get it in Heisenberg too. At this percentage it's a bit tricky, because you don't always get the full-on Anise hit in every vape. You have this slightly dark taste lingering after you took a hit and the Koolada wears down.
Blackcurrant INW is giving a sweet-sourness (red?) to the mix. I taste it more when drinking the liquid (not a full glass, just a drop) but it creates a bridge between all the other flavors in this mix.
Koolada INW could be any other brand, I just had it on hand. Everyone notices the cool start and finish of Heisenberg as one of the first impressions. Also it acts as a slight flavor enhancer, making the berries brighter in themselves.
Black Fruit Mint INW is the flavor that makes you hate or love Heisenberg - you either recognize it as a toilet freshner OR as part of the Heisenbergs unique taste. On it's own this flavor is unbelievable floral - I tried it at 5% and couldn't bear it. The Mint in this one is not very strong, but noticeable.
Red Fruits and Mint INW is the main flavor of Heisenberg. I can't describe it on it's own, because it is a mix of berries? Seriously, you have to try it. The Mint part in this is perfectly balancing out the sweetness.
I'm sorry, I got it type-hinted in ELR. I didn't buy it from inawera.com but from inawera.de
Link: https://inawera.de/gb/flavours/853-aroma-coolada.html
Seems to be a difference to inawera.com. Frost is something different as far as I'm concerned. So if you can't get a hold of that, try using another manufacturer :)
I've never tried Vampire Vapes Heisenberg, always vaped Scripture/Signature juice before i started mixing and I loved it.
This clone is different to what im used to but it tastes awesome!
Im so curious tho i just ordered 10ml Vampire vapes and 10 ml Signature to compare all three.
Great job @noilian
@radish what do you mean with scripture/signature?
To me, this is the only vv heisenberg clone. All other recipes and commercial clones I've try'ed are just far, far away from the real thing. Those don't match a single flavor note, use to be builded around a blueberry profile (thing I've never tasted on vv).
for me it's as close as possible to heisenberg. i mixed it several times. Once i tryed to enhance - because some times it seems to me as the black currents % was too high... but at least i fall back to the original.
My allday since months.
May be i will try to substitute the anis by liquorice ??
Amazing job re-creating VV Heisenberg!
I used to vape a lot of it but haven't had it for while now.
I found a bottle that I'd used for mixing the VV Heisenberg concentrate previously and took a sniff and it came right back to me!
Seeing 11% of an Inawera flavouring made me raise an eyebrow, but I gave it a try anyway.
To me, Inawera Red Fruit and Mint is the VV Heisenberg X factor, that weird note that makes it so strangely interesting.
I think you nailed this one!
Thanks for your work!
@Top_rod
Any brand Koolada will work, they're pretty much all the same.
"Koolada" is usually WS-3, so the same family of chemicals as WS-23. It just picked up a funky name along the way!
WS-23 is usually sold as a stronger concentration than Koolada so you were replacing the Koolada with WS-23 entirely, you might want to lower the percentage of WS-23 to say, 0.25% initially and see if the cooling effect is to your liking. You can always add a few more drops if you want it colder.
They have slightly different cooling effects too.
Some people find
WS-23 = inhale cold
WS-3/Koolada = cold exhale
So you can mix them up to create different vapes.
Experiment away, tweak it to your liking!
5/5 , i have no idea how genuine heisenberg tastes (i don't inhale food colorings), but this one is really delicious. sweet but not overwhelming, dash of cool on exhale. i was worried about amount of inawera flavors in this one, but it plays great! such a nice recipe, will land in my adv. thanks a lot!
@ReNee what country are you based in?
I'm in the UK and use Chefs Flavours, RainbowVapes or NomNomz but NomNomz seem to be the only one that have both in stock at the moment.
Inawera sell direct from Poland too at https://www.inaweraflavours.com/
I'm not sure on other countries though.
@ReNee
Sorry my friend, I don't really know any sources in the US and a search of places like BullCity, MyFreedomSmokes, LiquidRiver didn't turn up much Inawera and no Black Fruit Mint or Red Fruit and Mint.
You might try an EU based site if the shipping isn't too bad like
https://www.inawerawinkel.com/
Good luck!