These are VG based flavorings and this is a first run with a mix, hence the Alpha. On its own Bread Pudding (Real Flavors) is excellent, a nice warm yet soft cinnamon with cream and bread notes. Honestly i wasnt sure if i would mix anything into the flavoring but of course i needed to add custard.
I have yet to try this mix but i have tried the bread pudding on its own and, WOW. This mix may change bit i am fairly confident in saying it is enjoyable as is. Normally i wouldnt post an unfinished recipe and have never posted an untested recipe but i wanted people who own the flavorings to see the direction i am going.
Walt @ Real Flavors is a master of his craft.
EDIT 1: Ran a quick sample testing today, by sample i mean i vaped 10ml. I will be increasing the Bread Pudding to 12% and changing the original recipe which i will post here. The change is being made as the custards have muted the other notes in the BP, this was to be expected. Starting low and adding more is better than over flavoring on the BP and i wanted the creamy mouth feel from the custards.
Bread Pudding (Άλφα) :
10% Bread Pudding (Real Flavors)
2% Cinnamon Custard (Real Flavors)
2% Vanilla Custard (Real Flavors)
Future edits will contain just the changes and why and im not sure how many more will be needed, if any.
Edit 2 4/12/16: Dont think i will change anything in this recipe, at almost a month it is a very good bread pudding mix.
EDIT 3 - 5/17/16: I dropped the Cinnamon Custard from the mix, it was too much Cinnamon and muted the lighter notes in the Bread Pudding flavoring. When i made the last batch i mixed several at different %s and i am good with this version.
http://gremlindiy.com/ will ship to the UK, tho i dont know the costs, and has a large selection of their flavorings. This Bread Pudding is excellent as is the Cinnamon Custard. On first vape i quite enjoyed the Vanilla Custard as well but need to play around with the %'s.
I believe in the Beta version of this I will increase the Bread Pudding to 12%. I want the new mixers who follow my recipes to see how a recipe progresses. I think what i will do is change the main recipe and note the changes in the comments or notes.
Great Idea and I know it will be very beneficial. After seeing some of the reviews I am going to pick up some of Real Flavors offerings. I will of course pick these up just waiting on some reviews of the other beta flavors.
They are some excellent flavors, several of the betas i would buy right now. That is if Congress approves the funding, hehe.
Being VG based flavors these will take a bit longer to fully homogenize with solvent, in this case VG. This would be a great time to teach people about making flavor bases for the purpose of allowing the base flavors to cure a bit before final mixing. Perhaps i should just start a thread on the forum.
I've not yet tried anything from OoO. I rarely buy blended concentrates (one-shots) as prefer to find a recipe that I can adjust to suit my tastes.
Mind you, I've had their Strawberry Sour Belts on my shopping list for months...
Well, I presume that they are compilations of other flavourings - what ELR calls a 'flavor base' - rather than 'new' concentrates created from the chemical constituents.
Hey bv! Aint seen you on chat lately, we have been wondering about you. Figured you have been very busy with your new group. Check out https://www.realflavors.com/ for more information.
Bread Pudding is fantastic! I could seriously just drink it straight from the bottle, hehe. I have a few more days for this to cure then ill test it and see where i go from there.
Your Vanilla custard in a single mix will be kind of high, 12-14%. But it is a nice custard, ill rate it and provide notes in a couple weeks when it is aged properly.
This juice is really really really yummy. I had to sub something for the Vanilla Custard and I wanted to see what Shisha Vanilla would do. It turned out really good. I will try this recipe like you have it here as soon as I get RF VC.
Nice recipe -- I just got the bread pudding myself and definitely like it at 7% as a mid note. Agree with your single note percent for VC but I find that after 2 months of steeping, it really blows up with flavor, so that one just takes awhile.
Going to run the bread pudding in VG (no nic) through a heat stirrer at various low temperatures to see if I can get the flavor to come out early.
@LordVapor: Glad you like, bud. I will have to play with the %'s again as the RDA i was testing this in isnt the best for testing.
@A.B. I have a feeling that the Bread Pudding will be making its way into several of my mixes, very nice cinnamon. With the VC, im really torn on this flavor. Ive been a VC V1 (CAP) junkie for so long that i dont want to like it but i do, a lot.
Let us know what your findings are, i would appreciate that muchly.
@ evaper: Ever had Bread Pudding? It is a fantastic dessert, bread, cinnamon, cream, egg, vanilla and sometimes a fruit. This is a first attempt at mixing these flavorings for a bread pudding base, once the percentages are close i plan to add the rest of the ingredients that will make it taste as my grannys bread pudding tasted. The entire process will take awhile as these flavors really come to life after a few weeks curing. I havent vaped this version of the mix as it has a couple more weeks to sit, smells fantastic and tastes nice with a finger test.
@Ken yes I got 4Oz bread pudding, cinnamon roll, cinnamon custard and others from RF. Their flavors smells interesting, very sweet. I also made two recipes that Walt posted, his recipes are awesome to smell, but after two days I can taste very weak flavor. Maybe it needs some time. Will see. Thanks for your recipe, I am mixing it with ultrasonic. Will post my results here.
@evaper: I got the 36 flavor sample pack and ill be diving into it soon. Check back for some new recipes soon. Ill be following you as well to see what you can come up with.
oh, i have no worries...i am positive this 120 will be good to go...if not, i have 120mls to tweak.you know as well as i that we have the ability to get it right with just a few small tweaks here and there. BUT...i doubt it will need much!
Well I just placed an order from gremlindiy. Should take about a week to arrive here in the uk. Thanks for the link. Got some cinnamon custard at the same time.
@Solace71: Hope you enjoy them, they will need a long curing process but it is very worth the time.
@A.B. Dada: Ive been trying to hard to avoid Amazon for this very reason, i already have around 50 of them. Walt was talking about a pure extract line coming very soon to compete with MF. The quality of what he has already put out along with the pricing scheme will most likely sway me..
@ BoyHowdy: Glad you like it bud! Any suggestions on it? Its been awhile since i had plain bread pudding but this is pretty close according to my recollection.
I added the extra Cinnamon Custard party because i felt the cinnamon was diluted with the addition of VC and also because i make mine BP with these incredible cinnamon rolls that i buy in the UP, L'Anse, MI.
I never tried it at the 10% you had originally @Ken O'Where.I can say this is spot on to the BP I would have at Grandma's house in my youth. Thanks for the link ! They look good and three one pound cinnamon rolls is just what my fat ass needs! Do I get a discount if I mention your name in the notes section?
Hi Ken. I've had the bp steeping on its own for 4 weeks now made at 12% and the cc again on its own at 10%. Both mixes 30pg/70 vg and 3mg nic. They both seem a little harsh. The taste is good but I'm not enjoying the vape. My first time with real flavours, any suggestions.
@Solace71: I agree, something happens during curing to make it a harsh vape. It hits right at the back of the throat, LordVapor first noticed this with Cinnamon Toast (RF). Not sure how to proceed here, ill discuss it with the others in chat and see if we can come up with a reason and maybe a way to fix this.
@ A.B. Dada: Absolutely, more so since they are VG based. Ill give the finished product a bit of heat and shake again to see if it helps. Perhaps the cinnamon is falling out of solution a bit and since it is a pure VG mix it certainly would be harder to homogenize with a shake.
Cinnamon oil loves to settle to the top. Even in PG. I see a lot of folks ruin concentrates AND eliquids by vaping the cinnamon oil out of solution, lol.
Would be interesting to see what causes it. My process is to shake it then warm it and then I use frother. 2 weeks later warm it slightly then froth again. The taste is spot on.
@Ken O'Where -- yup, and controlled heat is better so you don't accidentally evaporate many of the aromas right out of solution and into headspace. Controlled heat helps a lot.
Awesome flavor......bought the bread pudding and mixed with VC. Couldn't wait......vaped on it after 2 days. Couldn't imagine better flavor.. I do think I'll try it stand alone. I'm glad I read this, I would've never found "Real Flavors" without this recipe. I'm PG sensitive too. This is perfect!
@Debbiej: Glad you like it, they make some truly fantastic flavorings. They are just a little weaker than some but they are worth it in my opinion. Their PDO line is a natural PG which helps some people with their sensitivity and carries the flavor better. Dont forget the ELR discount code, ELRECIPES. It only works for their VG based flavorings for now but its 25% off.
and that's you do Ken !
well...have to order that RF flavour ... to make your recipe...
my god... I've just take a look at this flavours brandt (at chef vapours UK) they have a lot of desert flavours that looks very very good...
@lola: This is truly an amazing flavor, one of those that dont need any help but it does require a long curing time as it is VG based. So very worth it tho!
Hey Ken O'Where I'm just curious if you just kept this recipe as RF Bread Pudding and RF Vanilla custard please ?
When you say you dropped out the Cinnamon do you mean you scrapped that from your recipe ?
I'm wondering what it would also go like with CAP Vanilla custard V1 or RF Vanilla pudding
Hey Ken O'Where I'm just curious if you just kept this recipe as RF Bread Pudding and RF Vanilla custard please ?
When you say you dropped out the Cinnamon do you mean you scrapped that from your recipe ?
I'm wondering what it would also go like with CAP Vanilla custard V1 or RF Vanilla pudding
@Vape Girl: Sorry but i completely abandoned this recipe, i dont use the VG flavorings at all anymore. I did make a set of Bread Puddings with the Super Concentrates, they are somewhere on the forums, if i can find them ill post the link for ya.
If i were to work on a Bread Pudding today it would most likely be very different from this one.