Five Pawns Castle Long Reserve VII 

Gravatar - by warefairsoda, Oct 15. 2019, 00:35

Ingredient
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Nicotine juice ()

PG dilutant

VG dilutant

Water/Vodka/PGA

Total base

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Suggested steep time: 14 days

Strength: mg
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OVERVIEW
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This juice will hopefully appeal to fans of Five Pawns Castle Long Reserve VII. Cloning this juice has been an obsession of mine for the majority of 2019 and I have mixed well over 100 variations before settling on the recipe posted here; version #96 of Five Pawns Castle Long Reserve VII, and damn near spot-on.

This juice has a depth and complexity I have not found thus far in any other CLR clone. It is quite dynamic and tends to become quite spicy when chain-vaped in quick succession. An ADV, this is all I vape now and as a consequence has saved me considerable money (one 60 ml bottle of Five Pawns Castle Long Reserve VII costs approximately AUD$50.)

NOTE: No flavour substitutions will work here so mix this exactly as stated, otherwise your results will certainly not taste like Five Pawns Castle Long Reserve VII and will likely be disappointing!

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BACKGROUND
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Anyway, I have made all the clones and remixes of Castle Long and Castle Long Reserve that I could find online and while some were nice none of them were anywhere near close to CLR VII... at least, in my opinion. The majority of Castle Long and Castle Long Reserve clones tend to have TPA Coconut Extra, TPA Kentucky Bourbon, and TPA Brown Sugar. I believe these flavours to be incorrect.

I tried many, many combinations of coconut (e.g. Purilum Fresh Coconut, Flavorah Sweet Coconut, TPA Coconut Extra, FA Coco', etc) and almond; e.g. Capella Toasted Almond, Flavor Art Almond + TPA Acetylpyrazine/TPA Popcorn Air Popped (2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine), etc, but could not hit the complex spicy top notes of Five Pawns Castle Long Reserve VII until I combined TPA Coconut Candy, TPA Toasted Almond, TPA Red Oak, TPA French Vanilla, and TPA Bourbon. I started to wonder if Five Pawns use only TPA flavourings in their CLR VII.

Brown sugar flavouring is not needed, nor are any sweeteners as the juice has a sweet and caramelic body thanks to high levels of vanillins and maltols from the other flavourings, in particular, TPA Coconut Candy.

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FLAVOUR NOTES
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TPA BOURBON
TPA Kentucky Bourbon is too astringent and overpowering, even at low percentages (ditto for FLV Bourbon).
TPA Bourbon is a much better fit adding a slight but noticeable whiskey note.

TPA COCONUT CANDY
TPA Coconut Extra is far too synthetic and sharp a coconut flavouring to be used here.
FA Coco' (Coconut) and FLV Sweet Coconut both had a queerness on the inhale that I found quite objectionable.
PUR Fresh Coconut was too 'coconutty' and lacked the prominent aromatic spiciness of CLR VII.
TPA Coconut Candy, to me, is the dominant aroma and flavour of Five Pawns Castle Long Reserve VII. 8.0 % may seem relatively high, however being quite a delicate flavour (and not what I'd call an obvious coconut flavouring either) the high percentage is necessary in order for it to cut through the more robust and dominant flavourings.

TPA FRENCH VANILLA
CAP French Vanilla is much to strong and sickly a custard flavouring.
TPA French Vanilla adds to the spiciness of TPA Coconut Candy.

FA LIQUID AMBER
FA Liquid Amber gives a slight sourness to the finish.

FA OAK WOOD
FLV Oak Barrel is far to thin and astringent to work here.
FA Oak Wood helps bolster the woodiness of TPA Red Oak (see below) while also serving to round off the slight sharpness of TPA Red Oak.

TPA RED OAK
As stated, FLV Oak Barrel does not work here.
TPA Red Oak is the dominant oak flavouring most reminiscent of CLR VII.

TPA TARO
A small but noticeable amount of TPA Taro is added to give the juice an earthy depth (go easy with this one - unless you really like the taste of raw potato!)

TPA TOASTED ALMOND
CAP Toasted Almond does not work here, neither does FA Almond.
TPA Toasted Almond is the almond most like that in Five Pawns CLR VII. It was quite difficult to get the percentage right as there is a lot of flavour synergy happening between TPA Toasted Almond, TPA Coconut Candy and TPA Red Oak.

FA VANILLA BOURBON (VANIGLIA)
TPA Madagascar Vanilla Bourbon was a close fit however it left a strange lingering aftertaste I wasn't quite able to put my finger on... therefore it was dropped.
FA Vanilla Bourbon (Vaniglia) is the only vanilla flavouring I could get to sit properly in this mix; all other vanillas strayed too far from the flavour of Five Pawns CLR VII.

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NOTES
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Best mixed at 50:50 VG/PG ratio to maximise flavour. I have found 45 W at ~0.3 ohm dual-coil (22 ga Kanthal A1) build in a Geek Vape 4 ml Peerless to provide the best flavour. This juice doesn't gunk coils anywhere near as quickly as the original Five Pawns Castle Long Reserve, though I do tend to change cotton once every few days just to keep the flavour fresh and minimise the buildup and burning of excess furfuryl alcohol (from TPA Red Oak).

This has been a lot of work and very challenging to get right so mix and enjoy and please comment.

Cheers :)



Comments
#1 by Sascha Alexandra, Oct 24. 2019, 18:57
I am so excited to try this one. It seems you’ve done all the work for us. I so appreciate that!
#2 by warefairsoda, Oct 24. 2019, 20:25
@Sascha Alexandra I'm glad to hear you are keen to try it, and yeah, it was s lot of work taking most of 2019. Even though the ingredients are similar to all the other clones around it tastes nothing like any of them as the flavour balance is what sets this one apart. Just a note, use good quality cotton and make sure the coil/s are well primed.

Please comment and rate if you mix. I hope you enjoy it (and I think you will). Thanks :)
#3 by Sascha Alexandra, Oct 24. 2019, 21:09
I will absolutely comment and rate when I have mixed it up and let it steep. Thank you!
#4 by warefairsoda, Oct 24. 2019, 21:16
@Sascha Alexandra
Nice one, I look forward to it.
#5 by Sascha Alexandra, Oct 30. 2019, 17:02
I finally got the last two ingredients and I’ve just mixed it up @6 mg. Smells good. I’m very hopeful. Now I will ignore it for a bit. I am so grateful for all the work you’ve done.
#6 by warefairsoda, Nov 5. 2019, 22:51
@Sascha Alexandra You're welcome. I really hope you like it but it'll be nice to hear what you think either way :)
#7 by Cash, Nov 13. 2019, 10:51
@warefairsoda Thank you! I’m gonna try this since Caslte Long is my favorite.
#8 by Sascha Alexandra, Nov 13. 2019, 17:12
So, it’s been 14 days since I mixed this. And I can confirm this is spot on. My son is a CLR connoisseur, and he’s asked me to make a large batch for him. Your work has made me look like I know what I’m doing, which I thank you kindly for. REALLY GREAT JOB!
#9 by warefairsoda, Nov 14. 2019, 00:53
@Sascha Alexandra Thank you, thank you. Finally someone has mixed it and seen it for what it is. And got that I thank you. Enjoy saving the money otherwise spent on Five Pawns CLR. 😊
#10 by gus8511q, Nov 19. 2019, 21:12
i cant find LIQUID AMBER so i decided to make this recipe whitout it but i have all the others . will be ok?
#11 by gus8511q, Nov 25. 2019, 01:07
i believe that Coconut Candy (TPA) is to high. i will try with 7% and toasted almond at 1.5%
#12 by warefairsoda, Nov 28. 2019, 22:41
@gus8511q In relation to your first comment, if you'd mixed it exactly as stated (WITH FA Liquid Amber) you'd be in a better overall position to judge the recipe...

TPA Coconut Candy at 7 % and TPA Toasted Almond at 1.5 % (without FA Liquid Amber) was my v.58 of this recipe! However, if you prefer it that way then go for it mate, after all you're free to do as you please and this is exactly what DIY is all about.

Now, if you liked the recipe please rate it; very few people seem bothered to do this anymore here, unless of course we are talking about established and well known DIY mixers!

Thanks for your comments. Cheers :)
#13 by warefairsoda, Nov 28. 2019, 22:58
@Sascha Alexandra I'm curious to know what your CLR connoisseur son thinks of the recipe too...

On a separate note, I made a variant of the above recipe where I dropped the TPA Taro and instead added 0.4 % Flavor West Coumarin Pipe Tobacco; slightly different, though a very, very nice vape (FW Coumarin Pipe Tobacco is a great flavour if you have it.)

Please rate the recipe Sascha :)
#14 by warefairsoda, Nov 28. 2019, 22:59
@Cash Did you manage to mix this up, and if so, what did you think?
#15 by Cash, Nov 29. 2019, 01:07
Not yet. I will let you know if I have
#16 by gus8511q, Nov 29. 2019, 01:14
its a spot on recipe. thanks and i rated it 5 stars
#17 by warefairsoda, Nov 29. 2019, 01:44
@gus8511q Thanks very much mate.
#18 by warefairsoda, Nov 29. 2019, 01:45
@Cash No worries. Thanks.
#19 by Sascha Alexandra, Jan 8. 2020, 01:11
My son adores this. As a result I made him 250 ml for Christmas. Great job.
#20 by warefairsoda, Jan 8. 2020, 05:27
@Sascha Alexandra Thank you for taking the time to reply. I'm so happy he likes it as much as he does - it's very encouraging feedback. Thanks again :)
#21 by MaxUT, Jul 13. 2020, 07:04
@warfairsoda A person seldom encounters a recipe as fine as this one-- your hard work certainly paid off! I'd rate it ten stars if I could, it's really that special. Many thanks for sharing it!
#22 by warefairsoda, Jul 14. 2020, 08:16
@MaxUT Thank you very much, that means a lot to me. I have since refined my CLR VII recipe to one that is extremely close to the Five Pawns product, however it is still in the final stage of adjustment (though I imagine I will finish it and post it here very soon.) Incidentally, I have a non-reserve Castle Long clone that is practically indistinguishable from the Five Pawns product that I am over the moon about (more so than any other juice I've ever made in fact!). I will be posting the latter recipe here on ELR some time over the next few days or so - I just need to write the blurb for it... Anyway, if you have email notifications turned on for this site I'll let you know when it's posted. Thanks :)
#23 by Lee, Sep 13. 2020, 20:17
Thanks for this recipe. I have managed to get all but the taro. Im in the UK and could not find it. I'll be mixing this week and I'll post my feedback.
#24 by Leroy, Dec 1. 2020, 11:32
Damn! Did a mix, so so close to the real thing.
#25 by spoonsuk, Feb 11. 2021, 19:30
@wairfairsoda did you manage to perfect your recipe as stated in the july 14th post? Love to see it
#26 by spoonsuk, Feb 13. 2021, 14:46
@Lee, you can get Taro from Rainbow vapes in the uk
#27 by Basher, May 31. 2021, 16:38
hey there. can this be translated to an 80/20 mix just by adjusting the vg/pg amounts (using the call;ator on this obviously.thx in advance
#28 by Lakilinos, Nov 29. 2021, 01:21
Can you please convert to drops the tiny percentage of taro, liquid amber and burbon for 100 ml? Thanks in advance
#29 by warefairsoda, Dec 6. 2021, 12:04
@Lakilinos Roughly, 1 drop = 0.02 g/0.02 ml...., roughly.
#30 by Jack Reacher, Jan 9. 2022, 22:18
Does it really need the Taro? Have real difficulty finding it.
#31 by Jack Reacher, Jan 10. 2022, 17:53
@warefairsoda,

Any update on this? Would love to know before I purchase the ingredients? Thanks.

"I have since refined my CLR VII recipe to one that is extremely close to the Five Pawns product, however it is still in the final stage of adjustment (though I imagine I will finish it and post it here very soon.) Incidentally, I have a non-reserve Castle Long clone that is practically indistinguishable from the Five Pawns product that I am over the moon about (more so than any other juice I've ever made in fact!). I will be posting the latter recipe here on ELR some time over the next few days or so - I just need to write the blurb for it."
#32 by Vlad_Didi, Mar 16. 2022, 09:16
I will make 1l ... i hope it will be good ! I will let u know
#33 by Vlad_Didi, Mar 17. 2022, 17:35
made it ,shake and vape it is nice. I hope it will get beter after 14 days. It has a very special smell and taste . I m happy i take the risk and made one litter:)
#34 by estranged, Oct 12. 2022, 09:46
anyone experience lil bit fungky smells after taste?
#35 by estranged, Oct 12. 2022, 09:49
and what is the best subtitutes for Liquid Amber (FA)? thanks.

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