Flavor Labs Single Flavor Tests 

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Gravatar - by SessionDrummer, Oct 24. 2020, 20:57

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https://vapor-flavor.com/
http://www.vapor-flavor.com/Vapor-Flavor-List-Vapor-Flavor-Dot-Com-8-2013-Final.pdf

forum.e-liquid-recipes.com/t/flavor-labs-single-flavor-tests-mixing-now/249286

All flavors tested at listed percentages, in a SteamCrave RDTA v.1, 65 watts, on dual vertical Kanthal 7 wrap, 24ga. coils, with fresh cotton and dry burned coils in between tests. All steeping 1+ week before testing.

**Apple Pie (Flavor Labs) 6% (10-25-20)** -- First one on deck, AND below the 10% guidline on their website. Who knows what's going to happen, hehe. OK, out of the gate, this one was fab-tab-ulous !!! I know, I know, who needs MORE flavors, and from a different company, BUT, review I must. On the first vape, this one presented almost as a One-Shot, as it had about everything you'd need or want in an apple pie. Almost like a darker version of FLV's Apple Filling, with some FA Apple Pie thrown in, BUT, there was more. It was almost if they had captured the doughy part of the pie crust. You know, the parts that aren't browned ?? They're in there. The filling portion was incredibly full, and rich at this weight, and did have some spice to it, but was evenly mixed at, or below the apples. The apples were cooked, and perfect, with a nice level of sweetness. As a whole, this one left nothing missing or to the imagination, and it really didn't need any tweaking to put it into full on Apple Pie status. The entire mix worked great at 6%, and you could even go lower, so that was a major question for me. Continued vaping revealed nothing off-putting, or out of place, and I emptied the tester to be sure. For a first solo for me, from Flavor Labs, this one started it out with a bang. For a incredibly rich, full, and accurate Apple Pie including the dough, and crust, this one WILL do it for you. As a solo 6% was plenty full, and you could step it back if needed. As it stands, handily a **9.9/10**.

**Bear Claw (Flavor Labs) 6% (10-25-20)** -- Second one on deck, and another great one. Now obviously all of our tastes will vary, so you may not love everything I do, but for my tastes, I'm starting to think that Flavor Labs KNOWS their bakeries. Super great bakery element in this one, and with caramel, and pecans on top ? Yes, that's what it's tasting like. The pecan seemlessly blended with the bakery so they were hard to separate when vaping, and the caramelly rich goodness carried throughout the vape. Sweetness was about mid level, and for my second test from FL, this one was fine @ 6%, and frankly, you could use it lower. Nothing off-putting, and yet another "one-shot"-ish flavor from FL. By that I mean, it's soo good by itself, you really wouldn't have to add anything, it's that good. I vaped it hard to try and detect any play-doh or other "I know what that is"'s, and I just couldn't find any. Smelling it, vaping it, even tasting it, tasted the same. A great bakery, with very fresh tasting Pecans thrown in, with a caramel that carried throughout the vape. About the only thing that could be a take off for some would be the slightly more forward Pecan, but for my tastes, it suited the overall mix perfectly, and I couldn't see changing it. If you like pastries, and like caramel and pecans, I think this one should be on your list. **9.5/10**.

**Blackberry (Flavor Labs) 6% (10-25-20)** -- When testing this one @ 6% it had some floral overtones, and I further diluted it, which helped a great bit, so 6% seemed to be pushing the ceiling on this one. Re-tested at roughly 4%. There was an interesting article on this flavor [here](https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180419006064/en/Flavor-Laboratories-Inc-Flavor-Labs%E2%84%A2-Introduces-the-First-Alcohol-Free-Natural-Blackberry-Flavor-in-the-Flavor-Market) that somewhat explains the MFG process of it. This one was higher priced than most of the other flavors on their site, and I am assuming because of the all natural-ness of this one. A slight bit of the floral-ness remained at the lower testing weight, but not so much as to be intrusive. It did present as a very natural Blackberry, but at unique at the same time. Couldn't think of a good comparison on the market, which led to it's more unique profile. No seeds, bitterness or anything off-putting except for the floral note when pushing too high. Not overly tart, and sweetness was below mid level. Full bodied and dark at the lower testing weight, and you could probably go down to 2% if needed. Not fully up to par with Medicine Flower's but still good none the less. Because of the added cost, and the floral top end if not careful, your mileage will vary on this one. All in, felt good at **7/10**.

**Cherry Wild (Flavor Labs) 3% (10-25-20)** -- Man, you guys owe me BIG time for buying, and testing all these completely UN-documented flavors, with the real and present danger of blowing my face off. Thanks, I appreciate it, hehe. OK, First things first. 3 percent, WAAAAY TOO HIGH for this one. Reduce, reduce, reduce. I cut it once, still too heavy, reduced again, and it started to take better shape. I think 0.90% would be a good starting point for this one. Once you step this one down to chinatown, it is actually a QUITE outstanding Cherry. It had aspect of a Mara, but some mid (darker) tones, but NOT a Black Cherry. Perhaps that's the "Wild" in it. Beyond being hella-strong, for some reason during the tester tank I wanted to make a Cherry Milkshake. At a much lower, even sub 1% mixing weight, no florals, or off-putting notes. There was a certain aspect/note that I got from this, almost like the cherry pit, but not bitter that kept it unique and interesting. If you dare, and go very low, this might just help you out with some of your Cherry needs. Go low, you have been warned. **8.9/10**.

**Fruit Loopys (Flavor Labs) 6% (10-25-20)** -- With my all time fav (Cap Silverline Fruit Circles) being used almost daily, I think I'm pretty well versed in all things that are [Loops](https://vccalc.vapingcommunity.co.uk/recipe/4261). Out of the gate, I thought I MIGHT have gotten a wiff of AP. AP ?? !!! Let's vape on and see. Right on the vape, this one had a GREAT cereal mid and back end, some citrus in there, and NO Lemon Pledge. Sweetness was actually below mid level which is always a nice surprise for Cereal flavors/vapes. It felt as if some of the citrus was missing on the top end with this one, and the AP note I thought I got earlier, didn't re-appear. Perhaps buried in the cereal notes. I got more lemon of the sniff, than I did off the vape, which depending on how you Loop may or may not be a big deal. Being able to add Lemon as YOU need it, is never a bad thing. While not bad, was missing some of the meringue aspects that many of us need when Looping. In total, not bad, just not super stellar. Leaving it mildly at **7.0/10**.

**Grape (Flavor Labs) 6% (10-26-20)** -- Grape on deck, and deep purple it is !!! OK, this one presented as a fairly full, and rich grape, but had an interesting top end, and I'm not sure if I'm 100% a fan, or not. Almost like a touch of champagne on the exhale. I don't think it hurt the mix, but it was def. present on the exhale. It's light enough that simply pairing it with another would easily mask it, if you were in the NOT a fan camp, or let it ride solo, if you were a fan. The grape itself while not billed as a jam, had a lot of jammy qualities. Not overly sweet, so not 100% jam, but as are in some of the recipes this is used in, pairing it with others, can easily push it into full jam mode. All in, a solid mid/slightly dark grape, but with a note on the exhale, that you might love, or hate. Staying neutral on the top end finish note, felt good at **7.0/10**.

**Grape Wild (Flavor Labs) 6% (11-6-20)** -- For the last flavor in this series, the Grape Wild was a very unique finish. Having tried Flavor Labs' Grape, this one was similar in so much that it presented as a rich, and full mid / semi-dark grape, but with something else. It took me quite a while to try and figure out how to explain the "wild" in it, and I finally got it. It tasted like white wine on top of a purple grape. NOT a darker wine, but literally a nice juicy purple grape, WITH, some white wine thrown in on top. Once I had that realization, I couldn't see it any other way. Your perceptions may vary, but as a whole, it did work pretty convincingly as a Wild Grape. Was full, but more relaxed than FL's Grape at this testing weight, and sweetness was below mid level. Throughout the tank it stayed convincing, fairly natural, and with no off-putting notes. Now that I've had both this and the regular Grape, I think I prefer this one, as it tasted more natural, and the "wildness" worked really good. All in, leaving this higher than the Grape, @ **8.5/10**.

**Pineapple Upside Down Cake (Flavor Labs) 6% (10-27-20)** -- This one was another "staff favorite" from Flavor Labs, so I dove right in !!! OK, I hadn't had a PUDC in a while, so I had to scratch my memory TO remember LOL. At 6%, I was getting florals, SO, backed it back down to 4%, which fared MUCH better. The reason why I DO leave the original testing weight in the sub-title, is that WAS where I started. OK, first thing I thought was "Where's Da Cake" ?? !!! Didn't really get much of it. Period. Now, what I DID get was a roundhouse kick to the face, and it tasted like PINEAPPLE !!! This one had Pineapple in spades. It was a very broad spectrum pineapple, with some punchy high end notes, mid body, and some lower end. It really covered all the bases in regards to pineapple, AND, it had an almost unique "baked" quality to it. It was very satisfying at 4%, and could even be mixed lower. Now, because of the very missing cake part, this will be hard to rate, as I will have to push it down a bit, but I don't want to overshadow the delicious pineapple nature of it at the same time. Let's leave it here. As a Pinepple Upside Cake, I would have to go with a **6.0/10**. As a straight pineapple, I would have to reverse direction, and peg it at 9.2/10.

**Sugar Cookie (Flavor Labs) 6% (10-28-20)** -- This sugar cookie to me, was rather interesting. It wasn't that it was the best SC that I have used, but it was still good, but I did a little test with this one. Started out at 6%, tasted pretty good, didn't feel like it was hitting the ceiling, and nothing off-putting. I decided to simply cut it on half to 3%, just to see what happened. What was funny, was not MUCH changed. Interesting. Slightly less impact, but overall, didn't really change much. So, even 3% will give you a good idea of it. Overall it lacked from the the vanilla-buttery-goodness that I get from CAP's SC, and maybe a smidge less grainy-ness. It didn't feel lacking per se, but when I compare it to my CAP goto, it just seemed less present. It wasn't heavy on the vanilla, which allowed it to land more squarely in a non-descript, neutral cookie than anything else. Sweetness was at or below mid level, and whether at 3% or 6%, didn't get any off putting, out of character notes. This one summed up as a fairly neutral, slightly grainy cookie. It felt good at **7.0/10**.

**Strawberry Jam (Flavor Labs) 6% (10-26-20)** -- Yeah, this is the one. The one that really brought Flavor Labs into the limelight. Yes, it IS maybe one of the BEST Jammie, Strawberry Jams I have tried, and I've tried a few. Now, this isn't supposed to be, nor does it claim to be the best Strawberry, but again, we're talking JAM here. OK, this one, probably SHOULD be on your must have list, if you are shopping at Flavor Labs. Starting this one off, it was surprisingly below mid level sweet ?? !!! What ?? Yes, and that just opens it up for more uses, and allows you to spike sweetener if you want to. The next, and overwhelming point, IS the jammy-ness of it. I am not sure how they do it, but it MUST be magic, or every "jam" would have it, and they don't. There is just a very unique quality to it, and it just absolutely captures the exact qualities of a jam. If you can picture eating some homemade SB Jam with pectin, and just the right amount of sugar, that's this. It's so unique IMO, it really sets it apart from the pack, and not in a small way. The SB's in total appeared to lean from the mid to low, with a smattering of the bright higher end, which gave it a much more full, and robust SB Jam vaping experience, as opposed to a bright SB. All in, for a Strawberry Jam, I cannot go less than **10/10**.

**Watermelon (Flavor Labs) 6% (10-30-20)** -- Melon and rind were the too first things I thought of when vaping this one. I personally like it when MFG's throw in some rind, as it makes it more authentic (well, unless you hate the rind that is, hehe). The melon itself was blurred between the white/clear, and the red parts of the melon, and the sweetness remained about mid level throughout. It presented to me, in a 80% natural, 20% candied profile, that was plenty strong at 6%, but not hitting the ceiling. Wouldn't call it a "Super" watermelon, but it was def. above average. Because it had aspects of both natural and candied, your use of it, will be opened up to more recipes, as opposed to a WM that is specifically one or the other. It wasn't overbearing or heavy, and with that said, never felt lacking at this percentage. I think a good above average score of **7.0/10** feels right.



Comments
#1 by Slushy, Oct 25. 2020, 12:07
i have been looking for these flavors but the website is kinda shady do you have a link?
#2 by 316VAPES, Oct 25. 2020, 14:18
What mm is your coil wraps?
#3 by SessionDrummer, Oct 25. 2020, 16:34
@slushy, the website may be dated, but I've ordered hundreds of dollars of product from them with no issues. All arrived as sold, no leaks, no issues, etc.

https://vapor-flavor.com/eliquid-flavor.htm
#4 by SessionDrummer, Oct 25. 2020, 16:35
@Psycho, I run 3mm I.D. coils. Stupidly simple, one wire coils, in vertical orientation, and on a very old (original) version of the Steam Crave RDTA. Sometimes old just works.
#5 by SessionDrummer, Oct 25. 2020, 16:36
Let the MADNESS begin. Apple Pie on deck, and a WOWSER it was. Soo good, could easily be a one-shot. Let's hope the rest are as good.
#6 by SessionDrummer, Oct 25. 2020, 16:58

0.22 per ml 60ml bottle
0.12 per ml 240ml bottle
0.10 per ml 473ml bottle
0.06 per ml 1893ml bottle
#7 by 316VAPES, Oct 25. 2020, 18:11
I run a rba on my prince tank. I bought 4 rba’s off a site for $4.96 on clearance. Been running 3-3.5mm 5 coil wraps with demon killer alien wire depending on flavors. Have you ever changed size and wrap based off complexity of some vapes. I get mixed perspectives from people on forums. All based off them buying vapes pre made.
#8 by SessionDrummer, Oct 25. 2020, 21:30
@Psycho, I've had incredible luck with vertical coils on my SteamCrave RDTA v.1 which I use for all my critical testing. May not be the newest setup, but it's a spot on flavor chucker, and cheap to run.

forum.e-liquid-recipes.com/t/what-coil-build-do-you-prefer/13470/326?u=sessiondrummer
#9 by 316VAPES, Oct 28. 2020, 11:22
Ill have to try that setup
#10 by 316VAPES, Oct 28. 2020, 11:48
Just did it. See if it leaks or not as my rba for the prince has outer seep wells. But so far the flavor is far more intense then with a horizontal build. Did a 3.5 mm coil to get as much cotton to help prevent possible leak. Thx bud.
#11 by 316VAPES, Oct 28. 2020, 12:39
Worked out good then did this build in other and better of the two for this rba youtu.be/DrPHRVJ27gk a ton of flavor through this one and smooth
#12 by Sascha Alexandra, Oct 26. 2021, 12:06
Have you tried any of the cereals?
The cereal #5 which is supposed to be Frosted Flakes,(which is my white whale) was so awful, that I was looking for help describing what the note was.

Also, if you like sour apple candy, this is a good one.
I agree 100% on the fruit loopys.

I am working my way through 16 of their flavors.
#13 by SessionDrummer, Oct 30. 2021, 13:53
@Sascha Alexandria, not sure why but I JUST got an alert on your post here, hehe. Seems the server email is lagging again. I've not had a chance to get into Flavor Labs cereals yet, but you are making me WANT to. I'd love to hear about the 16 flavors you picked up.
#14 by Sascha Alexandra, Nov 1. 2021, 01:09
If you don’t have some that I have I can send them along to you. I think I went way to high on the Frosted Flakes one. Now whatever the note is in it I can taste in other flavors.
I’m waiting for the peanut butter cereal to steep and hopefully the note fades some.
I’m not going to try the sweet cream because it smells like coconut.
I’ll get back to you in the others. (The sour apple is good. A good candy sour apple.)
#15 by SessionDrummer, Nov 3. 2021, 02:06
@Sascha Alexander, how high did you go ?? I'll be curious to hear about the PB Cereal.
#16 by Sascha Alexandra, Nov 3. 2021, 17:22
On their site they recommended 10% for pg recipes and 20% for vg recipes
So I did the Frosted Flakes at 10% that was a terrible mistake.
So I did what I saw you did around 6% with the rest of them.
The peanut butter is good, but I think with the Frosted Flakes that off note, which tastes like plastic or rancid oil was so intense I can taste it faintly in the back ground. I’m curious if I maybe got an old bottle from them.
I tried it 2% with the jam and all I can taste is the off note. I’m sure it’s my own fault for having done it so high.

The mint flavors, butter and chocolate ones, are tasty. I’m not into coolant, but I like the taste of mint, and these satisfy that. The peppermint pig has the coconut taste mixed in, but if you don’t get that off note, it’s decent.
The sour apple is very good.
As is the fruit loopys. I’m thinking the pebbles one will be good too.
My next order I’ll include a peanut butter that isn’t attached to the cereal as well the pebbles and maybe the capt crunch. Also the sour strawberry, grape and watermelon are on my list.

If you are interested in the ones I’ve picked up I’ll happily send you half of each. Since we can only get them in 60 ml and above.

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