I wanted to make this an ADV, so I hold it up a little on the sweet side. If you want to make a 1:1 clone just up the Churro and the Cinnamon roll by 2% each.
If you re going to usa TFA Bavarian Cream instead of FW, be aware that TFA is softer.
The "churro" flavor is only available from FW, I didn't found a replacement on TFA, so I had to buy it just to make this clone... Worth every penny :)
what kinda steep time are you doing to get this to truly open up on the flavor? i just made a quart, and the first five 100ml bottles are kinda flat. even after a 4 hour crockpot steep.
i used everything called for except the bavarian cream - i went TFA dx bavarian cream on that one, but i saw where you said it was light so i upped it by .5%. i even went 9% on the cinnamons and it's still just flat. maybe i'm just on it too much... b/c it smells FANTASTIC. but i don't get any of the flavor in the vape... in my opinion.
i'm going to rebuild/rewick and see if that changes anything. will update based on steep time. might just steep overnight in the next few days, and see what happens.
@agg2001 I know it will sound extreme, but separate a couple of the ML you already made and up the TPA Bavarian Cream to 9% and see what happens... keep the Cinnamons as the recipe calls, they are already strong flavors.
Also, Loreaan Bavarian Cream will work ok, it's even better than FW IMHO.
one other thing - i made it max vg. so i'm thinking it might honestly need to steep for a week or so to really open up. i'll still try that "added cream" method though.
@agg2001 yep, max VG will certainly diminish the flavor a little but you should be ok since you upped the Cinnamons by 2% each.
As you said, give it a couple of days, heavy VG mixes don't taste their best right away.
Hi thank you for posting this I tried making it in 20mL but the flavor dies out after the 3-4 hit and idk If I should add more flavoring... Multiplied everything u put in as percentages and adding 1% more to cinnamon churro and cinnamon roll flavors how long of a steep should I do it's been 3 days now ? Thank you
@Bruc29 If you feel the flavor and then it goes away maybe is related to "vaper's fatigue" (AKA Vaper's tongue). Give it at least 1 week for steeping, bakery flavors take more time to "blend".
I would not recommend adding more cinnamon than the max I suggested, once the flavors blend, it will be too much.
Hope you enjoy it once it ages :)
I'm sorry for the noob question but once I saw this recipe ,this is what I decided on what I wanted to try for my first diy :) ... You know how you made this recipe for 10mL? If I wanted to make it in 20mL or even 30mL do I take the percentages and multiply them by 2 or 3? Or do I just put in the juice calculator so that it equals out to the 22% flavoring or for 1:1 24%.... The first 20mL I made came out to 46% flavoring which is ALoT from what I've been reading
@Bruc29 Don't worry we all been there... Easy way: Click on the "wrench" just right of the juice title on the top of the page. A menu will appear, click "adapt this" and fill in the blanks... Amount to make 30, Strength 9 (or whatever you would like) PG/VG 40/60, Nic Strength here you put your base Nic strengh as it says in the bottle label (probably will be 100) and then you'll have your recipe values below.
Better way: Use an app called "eJuice Me Up"... it's a pain to understand, but once you "get it" it's stupid simple and practical... try to watch youtube tutorials for the app.
Remember to use a syringe and NOT a dropper for measuring. And if you a re using 100 Nic strenght remember to use gloves... sometimes a drop can get into your hands /arms and you will not notice it and it will leave a small blank circle in your sink (chemical burn).
@Bruc29 also when you finish mixing give it a "hot bath" and also buy this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electric-Handle-Milk-Coffee-Egg-Beater-Shake-Frother-Stirrer-Foamer-DIY-/261889658992?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf9d71070
Thank you so much mdrago! I ordered the frother and now to try the recipe for a 3rd time lol.... Just 1 more question I'm sorry... I clicked the wrench and added it to my recipe thingy let's say I want to make 50mL I don't multiply the percentages by 5 correct? It will always be the numbers you posted?(unless I want to make it 1:1 than up churro and roll 2%)
@Bruc29 That's correct, you don't need to multiply the percentages (because they are percentages, not absolutes quantities). If you add flavor X 5% and you are making 50ML you will see that the final recipe calls for 2.5ML of Flavor X (2.5ML = 5% of 50ML). The advantage of having everything in percentages is that you only need to change the "amount to make" and the rest of the numbers will auto-calculate.
Good luck!
i think the banana nut bread needs to be backed off by at least half. i ordered a 15ml bottle of the legit stuff, and that's the biggest difference i've noticed - very little, if any, banana flavor.
Beard #32 is my favorite vape, I'm vaping it right now as I write. I've made this clone, it's not even close. Part of what's missing is the heavy butter flavor. The "fried pastry" funnel cake taste is also missing. These 2 flavors are what makes Beard 32 not your average Sugar Bear vape. I am going to buy some butter flavor and start working on this. I also think FA Joy may be handy as it has a fried pastry taste. I write this not to disrespect but to those who love Beard #32 deserve to know what to expect from this recipe.
@Miscman, no disrespect taken :)
Sadly It's been quite some time since I had the original Beard#32 so I can't refine the recipe anymore. Back when I tried it out it seemed pretty close.
However, if you manage to mix a better match please post a new recipe with a title like "Beard#32 Clone V2" so other's can find it also.
And please, when you do, write back again here in this thread so I'll see the message and look up your recipe to try it out.
We are helping the community be letting everyone know out there when we find a close match :)
Man, I've tried so many variations with these ingredients. It only produces vape that ends up down the drain. I've let them steep for weeks on end with no improvement. Can't even vape it. Dirty, rough, not sweet or cinnamon enough. The cinnamon roll quickly becomes dry and crusty, yet there's not enough cinnamon. I'm not sure I taste anything like FW Churro in the original and even 2% churro turns the flavor sour quickly. The cinnamon is so illusive. Ive tried Cinnamon & Spice TFA, Cinnamon FW, and even a hint of Cinnamon Red Hot FW. I've tried virtually every flavor with the word cinnamon in it. None of them have the right taste. After 10 tests and 4 months I give up. I won't try cloning this again until I see a whole new set of ingredients. It has no relation to Beard 32. We need a real pro on this one. ;).
@Miscman sorry to hear that man... At least I can tell you that the original N32 do not have any TFA Cinnamon, I know because I have some kind of reaction with anything cinnamon from TFA, even at 1% I can feel it.
i think it's the banana nut bread that washes out the rest of the flavorings.
i bought a legit bottle just to taste/test... and there's NO banana in it at all. i also think the sweet spot for mixing this recipe (minus the bnb) is 65/35 vg/pg. from my understanding, the original is 50/50. but i just can't take that much pg. i MIGHT give it another shot, but i WILL NOT be putting bnb in it.
No offense intended mdrago, I'm just tired of paying $15 for a 15ml bottle. :p
The original is 60/40 btw.
Regarding banana nut bread... Are any of these ingredients in the real Beard 32? I can say I think Bavarian cream. I can detect it's subtle vanilla. Other than that I really have no idea. Where's the cinnamon, buttery, sweet really come from? Custom flavors they make perhaps? It has a light brown color. Not to be confused with the Orange/Amber color of steeped nic.
Miscman have you tried flavourart joy? From reading about it they say it has a funnel cake type of flavor to it , maybe that and a cinnamon from flavor west?
Thanks Bruc29, I have joy and have been thinking about how to use it for this. Joy is a new flavor, Beard 32 has been around longer than joy has been available. Still worth a shot. I have FW Cinnamon, it not the right kind of Cinnamon so the Cinnamon profile will still be an issue.
I made a 30ml of this for my husband tonight. We are new to DIY but this has completely sold him. He's completely in love with it and thinks it tastes just like Beard 32, maybe not quite as sweet but the flavor is spot on. I did add Sucralose 1% without adjusting any other flavors and may work on adding more sweetness, but he loves it just as it is. We did 60/40.
I love Beard 32 but it was always way too sweet for me. I just made this without any sweetener and freshly mixed, it's pretty damn good. I'm going to let it steep (if I can hold off) for about a week and I'm sure it'll just get better! Thanks for the recipe!!
MDrago...I been reading this feedback. SOME of it is confused. Beard 32 is a fw profile and you are spot on w the churro... maybe bnb not there...but maybe it's the txture...great frikken job bro. I love 32 and you are ringing the front doorbell...dont let anyone start you otherwise.