UPDATED JULY 2017
Here is newest revision of the Cream Base.
This is an updated version of the One Shot that used to be sold at Chefs Flavors. If you are looking for First25 Cream Base, please use this version as well. I have consolidated them both into what I feel is a better version of both.
What's a Base?
You can make a large batch of this to save time on mixing later. Use the One Shot feature in ELR or Make with VG/PG/Nic.
Use Cream Base as an Ingredient in a New ELR Recipe:
The Cream Base is also added as a Flavor in the ELR database for new easy recipe creations under Cream Base (EJM). And can be found when typing in flavors to a new private recipe. Just use 10% as the amount of Cream Base then add anything you can think of. I suggest finishing at in the 13-15% final Recipe %
Ideas:
I suggest an RY4 at 3% and Hangsen USA Red Mix 1.5%
Add your favorite Fruit at a 3-5% range.
It's really up to your imagination.
No sweetener needed with this base.
Suggested Steep 14 Days
this may be the elusive creamy vanilla my wife loves ...that I cant seem to get "good" enough for her to start vaping all day..I have half a bottle of the one she likes....I think I'm just being played so she can still smoke...imma sucker..lol. I AM gonna get it cloned..... Excuse.........GONE!!!
Sounds good! Does this base need to steep before adding other flavours like fruit flavours to it? Am thinking of adding black fruits to this for the nice combo of sweet and sharp!
So you can steep it 3 days to 1 month as ideal ranges, the more the better. You can pre steep a 200 ml of this. And then shake and vape fruit mixes later
Lankada. Hollywood Vapes swears by v2's.. where my personal preference is TPA Vanilla Custard. He keeps telling me V2' have a better taste. You know...it's all personal preference.. everyone is different... I would go with what ya got before going and buying another flavor you might not need. I have a box full of stuff I will prob never use that I bought just to make a recipe here where I could have subbed easily enough. Ckemist might have a better take on it.. he may have tried v2 and not liked it... but I already know I'm subbing Sweet cream with TPA DX Sweet Cream. I found. the difference to be negligible
The only big difference I have experienced between the two are V1 has a stronger richer flavor which sometimes its over powering like CAPs cake batter..
Hey @Ckemist,Am a newbie here, great looking recipe, defo going to give it a shot. Thinking of doing this with a fruit, would i still keep the cream base as 9% of the total? and what % would you suggest for the fruit?
Can this based be used to build anything off of besides fruits? I'm looking for a good cream base to start all my recipes like cereals, cakes, custards etc. I was wondering if this would be possible considering alot of flavorings dont work off of each other so well. Theres a juice line that has this real distinct base in all of its flavors and Im pretty sure they use Capellas Vanilla Custard. By the way Ckemist your doing an awesome job with all of these recipes. Making juice is an awesome hobby and you layer your flavors very well. Keep up the good work!
this is a pretty standard base , for those asking can i do this or that the answer is yes , yes you cld sub VC1 for VC2 . and you. cld bring the percentages up or down by 1 percent or less but it will change the base nice work though for me i like Fa MM and fw bavarian cream i ran across this looking for a good ice cream stone this seems to be more of a cream or milk stone
If I was to only make one or the other, which one would you say is best to try out? The more updated version with the CAP Sweet Cream instead of vanilla swirl? Im sure it is a slight difference but which one should I do instead?
Stupid question time... I made this in a 120ml so I can divide it into 15 ml bottles, how do I measure out 3-5% to the 15 ml? Will I just have to remix it in the calculator and add the new flavoring at the desired percentage then add those drops to the bottle?
Man this is a very tasty Base so creamy and smooth ! I vape it as is without anything just the Base and I can't put it down... Thanks alot buddy 5starz!!!
DJ... It could work... But your TPA Dragonfruit Is Reay low.. It doesn't even start to make noise until around 6%. Of your using it to boost SB that's perfect. I added this to a Strawberry vape and it turned out ok.. Needed more creams though. Alot of the flavours will need to be reworked..amd I wouldn't add it 1 to 1
thank u very much this is a life saver !!! it only has like 2 days and im inlove .. making 200ml cause it wont last longer than this week and the variations u can get from this are the best of the recipe!!! someone give this man a vodka!!! thank u again !
Ha!! Just started my DIY journey and yesterday I mixed 100ml of the original 😄 I guess I'll mix another 100 ml today of this variation and see the difference in a couple weeks time. Thank you for the update Ckemist
Okay.. Rookie question here. I just mixed the base with VG/PG and Nic. when adding the fruit of my choice do i just put the desired % in and just top off the bottle with the base? That seems like the logical way to do it but I'm just making sure so i don't mess it up! I made 750ml of the base btw... Fantastic!
So you would now need to know what a 3% of X flavor weighs in X size batch. So you can go to a new recipe and enter the ml and enter that add on Flavors and see their weights. It will be close enough and you are adding a small enough amount. Cause at this point it's all the rest so you just need the weight of the add on.
thanks for posting this one and butter cookie. I order from Chefs flavors, when I got my order this was not in it. They did credit my account though, still was disappointed. Thinking about mixing the butter cookies with RY4 DBL or Soho. Glad to see this on here.. thanks again
Ok I am a noob. So do i make this with with my nic amount, once this is made and steeped I just add extra flavor to it ? in say smaller bottles.
Or do i use this as a 10% flavor in a new recipe? then add my other flavors more vg and pg??.
OH i get it now... just a noob... Watched the stream on stones and bases you were on the other day also. Dam helpful i must say. I learn more and every day.
This is awesome, ty. I'm just starting out DIY and ordering everything tomorrow (and been searching like crazy for a thick creamy mix (and this is even better because it's the full base) so thank you. Quick question, I'm looking for these flavors (strawberry, banana, peach, blueberry, "sour rasberry") because i plan on adding cream base to each of them all. What's your suggestions on which ones I should get that is natural tasting NOT CANDY LIKE/NO SWEET. Theirs so many to choose from it's confusing. Also what percentage do you recommend on each of those flavors (i saw you said 3-5% but i also saw your comment depending on what flavor it is) I'm really looking for a fruit inhale followed by a thick creamy exhale. Thank you for any help that you can provide (I'm a 50/50 12mg vaper, I'm not sure if that matters).
Thank you Ckemist, got your app too. With what you said above I probably should start all flavors at 3% (accept for the rasberry flavor) and if it isn't strong enough fruit put another 1% in and if that isn't strong fruit put another 1%). That would probably be the best bet, I'm assuming. Thank you so much for your help.
I don't have whipped cream . Is there something I can substitute for it ? Also thanks for the share and when I make it I will definitely rate it. Thanks again!!!
Couple of Q...
If you are trying to avoid muting effects, Bavarian Cream TPA has considerable amount of EM, should it be reduced to -say- 2%? Also I noticed that Whipped cream although it has no EM in it but also does mute fruits (or maybe masks them).
Also, if 10% cream is a little bit too much for me, and would like to take it down a bit to 8% for example, shall I take all down at the same ratio? Or you would suggest keeping some at their current percentage and take others down
forgive the question if dumb but I just want to check the math on this....
If 1gram =10% per 10ml, then I would just multiply by 6 if I were making 60ml correct? So I would add 6grams of this cream for each 60ml bottle. My additions (such as fruits, etc etc, ) would be deducted from the remaining 90% combination of vg/pg bases?
@msclar1.... your best bet and the easiet thing to do is pre-make the base (click the blue wrench on top right of recipe (make one shot/concentrate)... and mix at 10%.
I mean I know you just want to know though lol
@Ckemist I absolutely love this cream base (I love it at 15% by it's self or mixed with fruits). It's so good I almost eat it...
thanks for this @Ckemist. can i ask you seeing as this is a chefs clone, do you have a good clone for Chefs mexican fried ice cream? looked all over and others have very different recipes and not sure which to put my cash into? tia
@Tara A one week steep doesn't do it justice. You should let it steep for at least a month (and it won't hurt to do more) to get that thick creamy tasty vape everybody's always looking for.
I made 60 mls of this using Vanilla whipped Cream until my Whipped Cream gets here. THIS SHIT IS GREAT!!! Sweet, thick, just wonderful creamy goodnes. Thank you so much forvsharing this.
Isn't 10% as a base too much to use? I mean if i add ry4 at 4% and caramel at 1%, total is 15%. Won't it be rich and creamy with 5% of your base for example?
@drifter93 for me 10% is what I use for all my mixes... you'll be fine at 15% total... make 2 testers try them out both ways, you maybe more sensitive then me, everyone is different.
Hi im wanting to try this so basically its a 10ml bottle of base cream i add to what ever i like ? so i could add just 10% of the 10ml bottle to any fruits i want ? Thanks in advance so if i was going to make some thing say strawberry 3% strawberry ripe %4 in a 10ml bottle then just add 1ml of this mix in a 10ml bottle ?
because that means i could get 100ml of ejuice from a small 10ml bottle of this base ?Or am i off sorry im new at this and learning and thank you i will be definitely trying this base i just need to know how to use it can i get 100ml bottle from the 10ml base mix ? and if i want to add 10% to my mixes it would me 1ml of this base..Thank you
Well we will see how this goes. I have tons of flavorings but not quite what is listed. Sweet Cream (CAP) Whipped Cream (TPA) Toasted Marshmallow (TPA) Bavarian Cream (TPA) Vanilla Custard V1 (CAP).
This is an excellent Cream Base , always have a 30ml bottle mixed , works effortlessly with virtually any layered Fruit Concentrates , don't know why I haven't posted on here before to thank you for posting it.
Anyway.....Thx ;)
I'm a complete noob with mixing, saw this and thought I'd give it a go. Got enough concentrates in to make 1000 ml and so glad i did the smell alone is like a party on my nostrils.
Gonna wait a month till it all comes together and start adding my fruits.
Thank you very much for sharing this Ckemist, you're a legend.
Gonna have cheeky peek at your other recipes......... Cheers.
alright, so just started DIY and i have a question. I have seen people ask before about making this as a base (or any base that requires a longer steep)and letting it steep. Does this mean that they add the PG/VG/Nic and let it steep then use that to make other juices(as a stone or base)? I was wondering if i could make these ahead and pre steep them in VG/PG/Nic (or no nic until the end) for 2 weeks to a month, and then flavor it when its done. Or does that philosophy not work? I understand the math of the base, but for time constraints and flavor testing i was wanting to make a big batch of this and then flavor it however i see fit with a 3-5% flavor attached per mix. any help is appreciated.
Hey bud, so when it comes to making stones of any sort what you want to do is just treat the final mixed stone as if it was a normal concentrate. You don’t mix the stones with added VG or PG, literally just mix the percentages into a 10/20/30ml bottle,label said bottle with name and date and use the suggested % as and when needed. With this mix being a total of 10% the required/recommended amount to mix with will be 10%. Hope this helps mate and happy mixing. 👍🏻
I did something like this but mine is
2.5% Bavarian cream tpa
1.5 cream fresh FA
2% double cream VP this one is a must
2% sweet cream tpa
1% Catalan cream Fa
0.5 vienna cream
I use it with all my mixes needing cream I dont use vanilla custard I feel Bavarian cream and vienna does its job for me
I'm new to diy and this is the only recipe I've mixed so far, I made a quick 30ml and before storing for steeping I tried a little, well that 30ml never got a chance to steep, I then made 100ml which is steeping but down to 60ml! I've now mixed another 300ml, I really want steep this so hoping I can leave the 300 alone. Its just so nice straight away, I know after a steep its going to be better but it's just hard to put it down. I've been vaping for quite a few years and this recipe is better than any I've ever bought and I mixed it, should have took this step years ago. Thanks.
I just found a bit of this base I mixed a year ago... Still creamy and delicious! I forgot about it and there wasn't much left... But I'm in love all over again.
I just cracked open a 50mL bottle of this I made back in October!!! Holy shit!!! I had no idea it was that good till I tried it out after many months of no-nic steeping. Works great for adding fruits. I threw in 2% SSA Scandinavian Fruits (which to me tastes like an awesome blueberry) and 1% CNV Lemon Cream Wafer (which tastes kinda like yellow fruit loops in cream)!! WOW, good stuff, might make up another 120mL to sit and get as good as this one is! 5 Stars
Replaced Capellas Vanilla with the Inawera one and after month of steeping its horrible, could it be Inawera’s fault? Wasn’t anything near “cream” taste Oo